Time 02:09 AM 12/21/98 -0800
Name: Ed Kendrick <bear@nti.net>

I worked at Sinop for the calibration team that was assigned there and am trying to find a friend in Sinop does anyone know of an e-mail address for Sinop??
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Hello Ed,

There is no Email address for Sinop that I know of as such, but you may wish to contact Abdullah Eren. He was born in Sinop, lives in California now, was recently back to Sinop and has many contacts there.I'm sure he'll be glad to help you if you get in touch with him.

His email address is "cleoleyla@aol.com".

I'll post your question up on the Mailbag page just in case someone else has some information that might be helpful to you.

Bill

Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 11:10:14 -0500 (EST)
Subject: I was at Tuslog Det 4 also..
From: <DoctorMax2@AOL.Com>

I served at the US Army Telephone Exchange there on base for a few months. It wasn't a pleasent time for me though. I was there August 72 - Nov 72. It was a hill riddled with drug abuse at my time. I was then and now a drug free person. It almost got me killed at the time.
I was transfered to different barracks but, the drugs were everwhere. I was just 18 years old back then and Sinop was my first real expirence with the real world. It brings back the bad with the good when I think of it you know. I was transfered to Ethiopia at the last.
It turned out that Africa was my saving grace. There I met my first wife and had some beautiful children together. But, the good part of the Turkish experiences was the long trips to Samsun on the military buses. The airport there wasn't too bad either. Hotels were cheap in Samsun and the food wouldn't too bad as well. If it wasn't for those drug taking soldiers at the time, I might of had a great time there.

DoctorMax2
PS. I had a lot of pictures from there but my father's house burnt down and they were all destroyed in the fire.

From: "Ali_Kurtuluþ" akurtulus@ticaretnet.com
Subject: TUSLOG Det 4
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1998 20:01:06 +0200

I started to work at TUSLOG Det 4 in 1965, worked as a dispatcher at the TUMPANE operated motor pool, worked the order section, Bowling Alley and at last I was in charge of Engineering Shops.

I was the last person who left the base due to retraining the Turkish Military HVAC mechanics. I now work in Ciberia (Russia).

I visited the base couple of years ago and it does not look like the way it used to be, they made some changes, the main gate is still there but the warehouses and contractor site manegement office are no longer there, the Hippodrome is closed and the old Point Site is no longer there.

I think, most of the people should recognize me from the Bowling Alley and Fac. Eng.

Bye for now, Ali.

From: "Ali_Kurtuluþ" akurtulus@ticaretnet.com
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 01:29:42 +0200
Subj : Sunny Sinop by the Black Sea

I remember some of you guys, it's great.

Kurtuluþ.A

From: TERRY FIBICH <RADIO1100@AOL.COM>
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 01:56:21 EST
Subject: Re: BAYNAMI

Bill, please feel free to post my response. Additionally, I thought of a few more tid bits to add. The burro that roamed the post in late 68, early 69 was named Roland T. Ayshak (sp) and he would occasionally get into (or be let into) the barracks. He would also stand outside of the room windows and bray loudly.

We had a house boy that we called Stumpy because he wore a wooden stump for a leg.

I arrived at Det 4 just as a long series of court martials was beginning. This apparently was as a result of some members of the unit smoking dope and a large number of their friends and acquaintances merely having knowledge of their actions. I can't remember the exact number involved but it seems to me to be between 30 and 45 people were court martialed.

Date: Sun, 6 Dec 1998 05:23:21 -0500 (EST)
Subject: BAYNAMI
From: TERRY FIBICH RADIO1100@AOL.COM

CAME ACROSS THIS WEBSITE AFTER LINKING THRU OTHER ASA SITE. SERVED AT THE HILL ON 6 MONTH TDY FROM ASA COMM UNIT IN FRANKFURT. HAD A GREAT TIME WHILE THERE(OCT 67 THRU APRIL 68). TOOK MAIL TRUCK AND OCCASIONAL PLANE DOWN TO SAMSUN. ALSO TRAVELED BY TURKISH BUS. IT TOOK ABOUT 5 HOURS TO GO WHAT I REMEMBER TO BE ABOUT 100 MILES. WOULD STAY AT US AIR FORCE BASE THERE WHILE WE GOOFED AROUND IN TOWN. USED TO RENT HORSES FROM LOCALS IN TOWN TO GO RIDING AROUND THE OUTSKIRTS OF SINOP. SEEMED LIKE THE TACK GEAR WOULD ALWAYS BREAK OR FAIL!! WENT TO NATO'S BARBER SHOP FOR SHAVES AND HAIRCUTS VERY OFTEN, AND ALWAYS DRANK TEA WITH THEM. NAZIM WAS NATO'S YOUNG EMPLOYEE AND HE WAS A GOOD FRIEND. WHILE STATIONED THERE I THINK I MADE SOMEWHAT OF A SPLASH BY INSISTING THAT SINCE I WAS TDY THERE I WAS NOT REQUIRED TO REMOVE THE "CHICKEN PLUCKER" PATCH FROM MY UNIFORMS. ENDED UP GOING TO THE CSM FOR A DECISION AND HE BACKED ME. THAT REALLY PEED OFF A LOT OF THE LIFERS. WHILE THERE-I ! WAS ASSIGNED TO DO THE INSTALLATION OF SOME NEW COMMO GEAR THAT WORKED IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE CRYPTO GEAR IN THE COMM CENTER. WHEN I LEFT TO GO BACK TO GERMANY, I WAS ABLE TO RIDE THE "STEAMER" BACK TO ISTANBUL AND SPENT A FEW DAYS THERE BEFORE GOING BACK NORTH. I THINK WE STAYED AT A HOTEL THAT THE GOVERNMENT CONTRACTED FOR THERE, POSSIBLY THE KING HOTEL??

BAYNAMI WAS THE TERM USED TO DESCRIBE A FORM OF CUSTOMS CONTROL ON IMPORTS. THEY HAD AN OFFICE THAT REQUIRED THE REGISTRATION OF STEREOS, TV's, ELECTRICAL APPLIANCES, CAMERAS, ETC.

THANKS FOR HAVING THIS SITE!!!!

Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1998 20:25:16 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Sinop Det 4
From: Theodore {Bud} Johnson <deebud@uslink.net>

Served in Sinop during 66-67 with the Naval detachment. I think there were about 12 of us. Remember the 67 war with Israel and the rest of the Arab countries, and how tense the situation was at the time with the locals. Was buddies with the navy houseboy Nosmi Usturk {spelling} and remember how he got drunk downtown and took out his pistol and was carrying on and the only way they could control him, was someone went and got his wife. He was a whipped dog. Often wonder what happened to him. I think he had about 3 kids and was about the biggest black market person on base.

Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 16:05:07 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Two Time Loser
From: Jon Michael Brantley mike.brantley@stn.siemens.com

I served as an 05K in 1967-68 and again, briefly in 74, but was lucky enough to be medevaced after only a month! I have an album with many pictures of people who's names I do not remember, but that could be due to the condition I was in a lot of the time.

Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 06:36:28 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Paradise
From: Mike Garvin unlistone@AOL

Hi former members of a unique experience. It's great to see that there is an active site dedicated to those memorable experiences. Remember SOS's, the LDL, the fire walks, The medical/law day walks to the cyclops cave? How about the "fun" 12 hour bus ride to/from Istanbul.

It was a sad day upon the closing of THE HILL

I was the calibration team chief from Oct 86 to Oct 87 and from Oct 89 to June 92.

Bye for now,

Mike
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The definitions :
SOS - Sunrise Over Sinop - An occasion where a group of people would start a party at the fire pit, south side of base behind the barracks, before sunset and remain there until sunrise the next morning. A successful candidate would still be there, awake and somewhat sober.

LDL - The official name of the NCO Club.
The acronym has several definitions.

Fire Walks - The act of walking over the fire pit (while lit and going strong). This was usually an evening challenge when the evenings were cool to down right cold.

Mike

From: Keith Miller KGMILLER@aol.com
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 21:07:52 EST
Subject: Sinop

I bumped onto your web page last night. I was stationed there from September 75 until October 76 as a 31J20 (Teletype repairman) with the ASA. Really brought back memories. I enjoyed the pictures of the hill, the boat shop and the Sinop walls. I still have my boat displayed at home. I have often thought of visiting Sinop. Sorry to see that the turks have taken it over completely. During my tour the ongoing conflict between the Turks and the Greeks was tense. The American flag was actually removed and replaced with the Turkish flag in time for July 76. Complete with an armed Turkish soldier. Soon afterwards we started getting soldiers housed in our barracks.

Please feel free to post my e-mail address.

Keith

Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1998 20:58:58 -0500

From: Bill Bender doubledd@bellatlantic.net
Subject: Thanksgiving 1970

Merhaba Nacil? The wife and I were discussing past Thanksgivings and talked about eating Hindi in Turkey. We were thankful we survived the two earthquakes we had been through at the time. Smallest Turkey we ever cooked!!! Hope your holiday is a good one !

Bill Bender 05K Det 4-4 Doubledd@Bellatlantic.net

From: SCARMAN109@aol.com
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 18:27:25 EST
Subject: SINOP TOUR 3 \1980 3 \1981 A YEAR OF TRICKS

WHAT A COOL TRIP THAT LASTED A YEAR

IF ANY ONE REMEMBERS T-BEAR PAPPY UPPY MCDONALD KIP WRITE ME RON BOLGER SCARMAN 109@AOL. COM

IT WAS A BLAST IN SINOP

RON BOLGER .

From: Sinop155@aol.com
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 19:06:36 EST
Subject: Re: (no subject)

I bumped into the ASA site last night and enjoyed very much reading about the "hill". I have some pictures of Sinop put away somewhere, if I can find them and figure out how to send them I will if you would like.

On the hill from Aug of 66 to Aug of 67 then back to Devens for a couple of years as an 05K instructor. Presently live about 40 miles from Devens. They are turning it into an industrial park. Mostly down where the old barracks were and where you went to "dittie bop" school. Was out for a ride there a few months back they are bulldozing the old barracks down. The brick barracks appear to be used now by NG's or Reserves. Many buildings mothballed. It looks like a ghost town.

Regards,

Paul Browning, Sp5 E-5, MOS - 05K with a 05H back-up .

Date: Sun, 08 Nov 1998 21:33:52 -0500
From: Bill Bender doubledd@bellatlantic.net
Subject: Tuslog Det 4-4 Karamursel Reunions
DE Bill Bender, 05K20 1/70 thru 7/71 @ Karamursel, any others checkin from there? Later bacame N3ORO and use my old ditty bop skills in HAM radio. Retired from Army reserves in 1993, 25 years total. Still miss my buddies from Turkey , We had a lot of fun.
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Hoping to make contact with old friends from Tuslog Det 4-4 Karaursel, spent time from Jan 1970 thru Jul 1971 there. Remembered the earthquakes as a great experience!!!!

Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 17:03:07 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Sinop
From: Jack Pedigo jackpedigo@kpmg.com

A coworker just returned from Turkey and I was talking to her about my stint in 69 at the sexless society of sunny sinop by the sea. I was curious and discovered this site. Boy does this bring back memories. The MP's had a donkey as a mascot (I don't remember it's name but it was banned from the NCO club for being drunk and rowdy. My whole(6) class of 33D was sent there and most of us actually enjoyed the experience. I worked most all of the projects including KBOK the local radio station. We bought a small boat and sailed the sea and did a lot of sight seeing. One of the previous letters asked about a sunken city. This was Eske (old) Sinop. I have photos of the tops of houses sticking out of the water and collected a lot of pottery from the area. I bought several cameras and did a lot of photographing. I still have an album of black & white photos of "the Hill" and the city.

Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1998 07:53:15 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Alan Conway
From: Thom Leonard wellconn@consultant.com

Hi Bill,
Looking for Alan Conway. He was stationed with me at Sinop, 1966-1967.I thought this might be a good site to ask for him. Maybe someone else from Sinop knows where he is.

Your site has greatly developed over the last year. Thanks for all the work you've done.

Thom Leonard
NNNN

Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 14:48:58 +0200
From: Ozgur Cengiz ocengiz@netas.com.tr
Organization: Netas
Subject: merhaba

hi!

I am Ozgur from Istanbul,Turkey. I met to your site when I was surfing on internet for Sinop. I am surprised to see such a site about Sinop. I was there from 1976 to 1984. I was 2 years old when my family began to live in Sinop because of my father's job. That was a chance for a child to be in such a town. I enjoyed the sea beaches, fish. I was going for fishing when I was just 5 years old.

I wonder where you and your friends worked after or before working in Sinop. As I read on your site you and your friends worked in Sinop just for a little time and some wrote Sinop is a place of exile. That's right for Turkey too. Officials who are excepted as dangerous for the government are sent to Sinop but they are generally surprised when they began to enjoy living in Sinop. I think you and your friends are also an example of that. First you were not happy to be in Sinop but then after years, you try to remember and share your memories. Bad memories wouldn't try to remember.

I read about the historical church in your site, but there are another interesting and historical places in Sinop. One of them is the castle, surrounding the town. Another is the prison, used for political prisoners until 1996 and now is a museum. It is said the prison has cells under sea and we have a lot of songs of that prison in my country.

We have also a naturel bay called Hamsaroz on the way after Esek airport. It is said the remaining ships of Ottoman Navy are hidden to that bay in 1853, Russia war.

I work and live in Istanbul as an electronics engineer, but my family has a pretty house in Sinop, I usually go to Sinop for holiday. My family also hired that house to the ones working on the American station after we left Sinop, but I don't remember who they are.

It is also surprising to hear from you, because American soldiers in Sinop always seemed to be cool ones for me as a child, not dealing with the town, nature, people.

Hey! we also have a tarzan in Sinop!!! Do you wonder for his story?

Allahaismarladik
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From: SDurkheime@aol.com
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 14:28:47 EDT
Subject: Locating friend

How would I locate a buddy from 508th USASA Group, Korea?.
Dates appx. Nov. '57 to June "68. He was assigned as MP Hq. Co.

From: "phil hotton" photton@hotmail.com
Subject: Gimpy
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 09:29:00 PDT

Hi Bill, It's ole Phil Hotton again. During the period April '55/March '56 Det 4 had a few dogs. One animal was named Gimpy (or Gimp). He was primarily white, when clean, with black and grey splatters here and there.

If you saw him you would remember him for his pronounced limp caused by an injury to one of his hind legs that had healed badly. This did not seem to slow him down much, as he could outrun any female dog he took a liking to.

Gimp made great company when we were running one or two guys to a a shift in our rickety ops shack. In winter we had a wood fired stove sitting in a sand box. Old Gimp really liked to curl up as near to the stove as he could without actually catching fire.

Question: Does anyone out there remember Gimpy? How long did he live? Bill, I would appreciate your posting this on the Mailbag, thanks.

Phil
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Hello Phil,

Nice to hear from you again. I'll be glad to post your message up on the mailbag. Attached is a picture of a black and white dog that was at Det. 4 in 1960 when I was there. Gimpy?? or son of Gimpy??
I don't recall whether the dog limped or not but then I was never up close or personal with the animal but as you can see from the picture, this dog was "toilet trained".

Bill

Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 20:38:47 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: TUSLOG Det 4
From: "Marvin E. Miles" peoria107@email.msn.com

Thirty years ago I ocassionally worked at Sinop but lived at Karamursel - thankfully. I was just looking around and saw your site. Is there still a Det 4 at Sinop? I wanted to check the historical site you have listed but it seems to be non-functional (Army talk).
Anyway, nice site. mem.
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Editors note: Thanks Marvin for the info about the "Battle of Sinop 1853" link. It has been fixed and should be operational again.

Bill

Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 22:07:14 -0500
From: Morris Gros jeacom@bellsouth.net
Subject: det 4 vets

happy to have stumbled upon your home page. the pictures bought back many good memories of my time at the hill. i worked out of S2 office from dec 74 to sep 75. I always did want to go back for a visit sorry to hear the hill is no longer an ASA base. will be checking in from time to time also joined NASAA.
My email address is JEACOM@BELLSOUTH.Net

From: "Herbert M. Dowell" herb@centuryinter.net
Subject: Sinop 1984-85
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 12:16:33 -0500

Hey Bill,
I was stationed at Sinop from Oct 84 to Oct 85. I was assigned to NCOIC of Engineering. I was surprised and pleased to see your website on Sinop. Brought back some old memories of "The Hill". Hopefully I can make contact with some old comrades will get in touch if they happen to read this mail. Thanks for the site.

Herb Dowell
1SGT Retired

Name: Dave Kelly
From: dkdk2@worldnet.att.net

Hi Bill --
Great Web site. Sinop 68-69' 05K (059). Great letters and photos.
I never thought I would look back on my year in Sinop with fond memories but your Web page has changed my mind. My old room mates were Roger Cooke and Ken Lamb. I would be pleased to hear from anyone that roamed "the Hill" with me.

Keep up the great work.

Dave Kelly

Bob Krebs <102733.3211@Compuserve> wrote:>>

I would be interested in trying to start a reunion group for Vets of Det 4, specifically those who served during 1967-68. Do you have any info as to any other reunion groups? If so, how could I contact the organizers? When were you at Sinop?

Thanks in advance for any assistance.
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Bill replies:

Hello Bob,

I was at Det. 4 from Dec. 1959-Dec. 1960, a little before your time.

You might check with Ron Sowinski who is compiling a list of people who were stationed at Det.4 over the years.
"Ron Sowinski <rothvet@hotmail.com>".
His list would give you info about the guys that were stationed there during your time frame.

You might also check with Burt Schlesinger "<slesingerburt@spacey.net> " who is compiling a list of all ASAers and who puts out a monthly (?) newsletter that contains some ASA reunion info. There was a Det. 4 reunion several years ago (Fort Huachuka, Arizona ??) and there is talk about another one this/next year.

Good luck with the reunion idea and keep us all posted.

Bill

Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 03:01:55 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Jon M. (Mike) Brantley
From: Bob Krebs 102733.3211@Compuserve

On June 10, 1998 Jon Brantley responded to the Mail Bag with some comments regarding Sinop back in 1967. I think Jon was my trick chief. He said he would only be at his E-mail address until the end of June, when he was changing jobs and moving to another E-mail address. If you or anyone else knows how to contact Jon, I would greatly appreciate the info. Thanks in advance.

Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 08:22:28 -0700 (PDT)
From: Don Mohler <djmohler@yahoo.com>
Subject: Sinop

I found your page and felt like I had been given back a piece of my own history. I was there 11/67 to 11/68 right out of 33F school at Devens and worked at Ops but somehow had Bankhead, Morehouse, and Pointsite access. Worked w/Lew Vogel from Austin, MN, Don Lakin from Eugene, OR, Ron Lyons from Seattle, WA, Bill Jarvis from CO, Dave Smith from DE, Bill Baird from CA, Clint Talmadge from NY, Frank Marshall from Detroit, MI, an SFC Costello and Sid Hugely, MSG Charly Shannon. I also fixed slot machines in the clubs.

I am amazed how time has provided a softer/gentler memory of this "worst year of my life".

I have talked to and emailed Alex Gantos about his archeological work there.

Anyone remember hearing about a section of Sinop that slid off into the sea and was still intact under water?

Name: Steven McNeil
From: <signaldog1@worldnet.att.com>

Hi Bill,
I inadvertently stumbled onto you home page and was overjoyed to read email from so many Sinop alumni. I was stationed at the field station during the Aug 88 - Aug 89 time frame. I noticed most of the photos are of poor quality and I'm wondering if it's because the site was classified at one time.

The reason for this email is to commend you and the rest of the crew for establishing Sinop web pages.
Also if there are any signal dogs out there that served on the hill during my tenure there please speak up.
I'll be checking my photo collection and if I have some quality
photos I'll email them to you.

Steve
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Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 03:33:33 -0400
From: patbless@bellsouth.net
Subject: Thanks for the Sinop, Det. 4 page.

I was at Det. 4 from April 63 until April 64. I was a 993.1 exiled from Ops. B. to the midnight shift in the Arctic Tower. Thanks to Bob Shadwick for the Christmas 63 memories. I trained at Ft. Monmouth and Ft. Meade prior to Sinop and was at Ft. Huachuca until separation in August of 1965.

Sorry about responding via this page but the link to the Det. 4 page isn't working.

From: "HAROLD S WINKLER" WINKCPC@prodigy.net
Subject: Sinop 1960-1961
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 18:58:11 -0400

Hi Bill, this is winky.

I was on the Hill from May 60 to 61. Am presently employed by a defense contractor operating the Dayton Electronic Commerce Resource Center and was helping a client search for DoD RFQs and happened on some from Ft. Devens, which I heard had been bracked. Surfing the web for info I ran into the NASAA home page and was really excited to see it, especially your page.

I don't specifically remember you but I did spend time in the photo lab and I do remember the description of your knife sheath. It may not have been yours, but it was sure made the same way.
I worked with George Barger, Glen Austin and Richard Casteel under WO Filipczyk. Stan Ward who was in my class from Devens left a message in the mail bag about them and I am waiting for a reply from Stan. In looking at the page I see that Bob Van Erem was there at approx. the same time. I should probably remember him also. After Filipczyk returned to the States, we had a Capt. Dirks who was [part American Indian and we used to get his goat by yelling Geronimo whenever he was in earshot.

Have only had contact with one other ASA alumni since leaving service, Jim Baumgardner. He was stationed with me at NSA and our wives taught school together at Mead Hghts. elementary school. They returned to life in Tennessee in Johnson City. She was from Sevierville originally and we found them by looking at class pictures at the high school and the principal called her dad and said he had a couple of damn Yankees looking for his daughter and son in law.

I worked for IBM Federal Systems Division in Bethesda, switched to RCA Govt. marketing in Dayton and then spent 28 years at Champion Paper in Hamilton. Took early retirement in 1994 and joined the ECRC then. Am retiring for good next spring, early summer, and we plan to travel a lot. Sure would like to get together with some of the early 60's crowd from the hill.

I still have my set of postcards and some other photos. Even have trays of slides that I kept. Besides folks, I am interested if anyone can remember our marching chants as we marched to and from class at Devens. I know it wasn't sound off.

Read a post on one of these pages about the Turkish navy visit in the summer. That was some party.

Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1998 22:26:14 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Sinop made Knives
From: Bill Whiteford <SACI@WESNET.COM>

I was a 98C on THE HILL 64-65. Lived in Washington hall if my memory was not completely damaged by the Club's happy hours. I would like very much to purchase any knives that were made down town. Many of us had them made and I am a fanatic. If anyone has a knife or knows where one might be; please get in touch with me. If you can not bare to let go of it, I would appreciate any photos of them. "RAKI Bill"

Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 10:49:59 -0000
From: "Eric and Patty Frandsen" ericnpat@erols.com
To: "Gregg C. Flechtner" wj8y@bright.net
Subject: SINOP

While I was stationed in Edzell the people who closed Sinop came there. I (am) figuring Sinop closed either late 1992 or 1993.
It seems as though most of us left sinop feeling the same way. While I was there the navy had a dog at the barracks called Petey. Petey was a rake. Hippy had their own mascot and I believe that is what they called him. I was told someone actually brought Hippy home with them. While I was in Sinop and after I left they put alot of restrictions on the bar in the barracks (I want to say it was called the gundeck...but it is eluding me). I was really glad that I stumbled upon the Tuslog det page.

Patty Mathieson Frandsen nee Gilmore

Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 15:17:12 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Missing Persons (?)
From: Stanley Ward <smward@tiac.net>

I'm looking for current information concerning the whereabouts of either George Barger or Glen Allen who were part of the team in the '60 - '63 time frame.

They were part of my Devens class, along with Ron Ritche, who was posted with me to Asmara.

In the way of comments --- Great Job. These sites do bring back the good time memories.

Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 13:12:38 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Sinop Dec 86 - Dec 87
From: Patty "Gilmore" Mathieson <ericnpat@erols.com>

I was stationed at USNFS Sinop. I find myself wondering why I keep browsing the web for old friends for the year on the hill. I know being isolated from most of the military and family has its ups and downs but I think for all the downs at Sinop, I will always remember the fun and friendship to be had there. I hope that someone from my time frame sees this. Remembers the yeni, the wall, the Baskin Robbins run from work. The movies at the base theatre. The gundeck and base club.
I really enjoyed visiting this site. It is the first time I have seen one in a while.

Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1998 12:10:13 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: HELLO
From: Joe Borysowicz <joe649@hotmail.com>

I was stationed at TUSLOG DET 204 (*Sinop) 20+ years ago (Also at Karamursel KCDI).
Anyway, I have booked a trip to Turkey for Nov 2-12th and would love to tour my old base. Can you make some suggestions?

Thanks,

Joe
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Bill Simons replied:

Hello Joe,

I received this message from Abdullah Eren last January and it sounds like you may be able to rent a car and drive around the old base. For better info, why not send an email to Abdullah and ask to hear more about his trip back to Sinop.
I'll add your message to the Mailbag and see if it prompts any other responses.

Bill
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From: WHITINGRLT <WHITINGRLT@aol.com>
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 18:29:26 EST
To: bsimons@pics.com
Subject: Re: hi
Organization: AOL (http://www.aol.com)

Believe it or not they are still there and as you know no use any more.
I have been there in july drove around , no one is using the base.
I think they have few Turkish and British people.

Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1998 21:51:51 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: sinop field station?
From: gregg flechtner <wj8y@bright.net>

i just heard today that the field station at Sinop closed?
is there any truth to this????

regards,
gregg flechtner

Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1998 21:38:15 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Sinop 1981-1982
From: <Dabosshere@AOL.COM>

Was assigned to Hippy from Mar 81- Mar 82. Have some good memories, some not so good. Was a 33S. Knew some good people like Ken Teal, Joan Reid, Col Francis Toomey. Knew some rats like Clint Talmadge, ha! ha!

Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 11:39:04 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Mir Haba! Abi!
From: "Claude F. \"Tim\" Everhart" <ceverhar@turbo.kean.edu>

WoW! A Det 4 website! I served on "the hill" from Mar '72 to Mar '73. Send me an email, we can chat!

Date: Sun, 19 Jul 1998 19:16:58 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: "Sunny Sinop by the Sea, 1972-1973"
From: Larry "Pete" Peterson <titleins@lakeozark.net>

Just got "on-line" a couple of months ago, and was very surprised to see a website for TUSLOG DET 4! Didn't know it had such a long history, and I often wondered what happened to "The Hill" after I left.

I was assigned to TUSLOG DET 4 from December, 1972 to December, 1973. I was in the H&S Company (Headquarters and Service Company, and worked in the A.P.O. and the S-1 Section at Post Headquarters. Really enjoyed on your webpage of the town of Sinop from "The Hill"! It brought back alot of memories. It was the same view which I had from my H&S Company barracks room for that year.

Other memories I have of "The Hill" are of Saleh and "Cok Fena Charlie" and the waiter, (I can't remember his name, who described everything as "Delicious" whether it was edible or not) at the N.C.O. club, and the trips downtown on Saturday evenings to watch the "White Boat" come in and have a doner kebab meal at the Yeni Hotel.
Would like to hear from anyone who might have been there at the same time.

Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 22:43:05 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: SINOP
From: Bill Davidson <kewb4@aol.com>

I was surfing a few weeks ago and found the DET 4 page. What a surprise! I was at Sinop from August 72 to December 73 and worked at Hippy. I'm an ex ASA guy but I was working for Radiation during my stay on the Hill. My ASA days were at Devens 69-71 and Shemya 71-72. Its been fun looking at the pictures but I didn't see a picture of the "White Boat". I will look through my boxes and see if I have one.

Thanks
Bill Davidson
Palm Bay,FL
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Ed. Note - There is a picture of "The Istanbul Steamer" at the top of Ron Eddins second page. Go to the end of the his page and click on the link for his page two.

Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 11:00:54 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: U.S. Air Force in Izmir.
From: Kenneth Paul Swedroe <kenpaul@earthlink.net>

I was stationed in a little town out of Izmir in 1969-1970.
The town was called Cigli. I was a security police.
I would like to talk to others who were there.

Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 22:54:26 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Sinop 8
From: Michael Galbreath <Mike502@webtv.net>

I was in on the Hill '77-'78 when we lost an aircraft and all the souls aboard including a couple Warrant Officers that had been chopper pilots in 'Nam and a Major that was a SF trooper in 'Nam. Another guy lost was a FNG MP right out of AIT with a new wife and baby on the way at home. I was manning the radio back a HQ when the call came in that the wreckage had been found. Those were sad days but it brought an already close bunch of soldiers even closer. I'm looking for anyone who knows anything about the Sinop "8" that were shipped out of the country in the spring of '78. I still drink çay and fondly remember sitting at the docks under the trees at little wooden tables, drinking çay and watching the "White Boat" come in.

Date: Sat, 11 Jul 1998 18:37:20 -0400
From: "Kirk M. Oliver" <kmoliver@together.net>
Subject: Sinop Det 4(204)

On a whim recently, I decided to do some web searches on Sinop, and was pleasantly surprised at the number of hits I received. I had forwarded a couple to a friend and co-worker, Howard Garcia, who recently wrote you asking about Erhac.

Briefly, I was stationed with the USAFSS from 08/74 to 08/75 at Sinop. Det 204 was the AF's Det 4. I had an interesting entrance and again an interesting exit from Turkey.

After flying into Istanbul on a Pan-Am 747, and dropping a couple of us off, it was the the last civilian flight to fly for a while. As I later learned, the fight over Cyprus had escalated, and only Military flights were allowed. So you may ask, how does one get from Istanbul to Sinop? A Bus! A crowded Bus. A crowded bus that took 24 hours to get through the mountains during rain storms, and mud slides before we got to Sinop. That however is a whole long story in itself.

After spending a year on the hill, and just a couple weeks prior to my scheduled departure, the Turks, angry at the US for sanctions (Cyprus), took over our site (and others I guess) and we had little to do for a while. On top of it, we had local labor unrest, for a double whammy. Really did not know if we would have to evacuate, or be held in country. One day prior to my scheduled date, they let us leave, and it was Samson, Istanbul, then onto Pan-Am and home again.

Well, guess I got carried away here. I do want to pass on one item, a picture from the hill. It is a digital pix of an 11x14 I did while there. While I have dozens of slides from Turkey, but none are in prints. Maybe some day.

Anyway, take care.

Kirk M. Oliver

Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 07:37:31 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Erhac Turkey, Det 93/113
From: Howard Garcia <hgarcia@us.ibm.com>

It was interesting to read the comments on Sinop - Is there anyone out there that served at Erhac in Det 93/113 ?

Date: July 1, 1998.
Subject: Sinop
From: Jackson Beard < jackson.beard@metrokc.gov >

All right! I was there from 67/68. I didn't know these websites existed until a friend mentioned them this morning. Just cruising through. Boy, does this stuff bring back memories. I was also at Herzo from 68/70. Got marriedt here and lived at #4 Bunzlauer Strasse. What a blast from the past. I will get through all these sites as my time allows. Meantime, you have my e-mail if you circulate anything. I was a 98j...Devons, Meade and then to the hill. I must have a ton of pix still in my trunk...gotta look that stuff up. .