The Mail Bag - 1999
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999
Subject: Sinope '70
From: Dan Hegland <hithem@aol.com>
I was in Sinope in 1970 as a 72B (commcen). At first I worked at
main ops and then they found out that I had done two years in
Chitose Bankhead II, so they sent me out to the Hippodrome. At
that time the Hipp was a three man op, so I worked a day as NCOIC
(Sp/4), then came in as needed to train the other two...I
remember the dog KRUT who had his name on the entrance list to
the COMMCEN...I retired
in 1991 as a 98GLae/ap/etc., (Arab linguist), served two tours at
NSA (MIDDLE EAST), instructor at Goodfellow and Desert Storm...
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From: "John C. Andrews" wahaja12@mindspring.com
Subject: hello and greetings
Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999
My name is John C. Andrews and I was at det-4 from 12/65-11/66. I
was a sp/5 059(05k)
and I remember working in room 6 in ops, I think. My trick chief
was SSg Clark and we had a E-5 Sgt, airborrne type on our shift
as well. Danny Cauthorn, Bill Davis are two guys I remember, both
were 059's.
I really enjoy all the photos, the few I had have long since disappeared. I left det-4 and spent almost two years at Vint Hill and then to Asmara and final tour was at Phu Bai and that year ended my stay with the ASA.
My snail mail is John C. Andrews, 109 Carostone Court,
Cary, NC 27513
919-467-3441
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From: "Johnson, Tom" TomJohnson@selah.wednet.edu
Subject: Greetings
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999
My name is Tom Johnson, I'm currently a fifth grade teacher in
the Selah School District. My class wants to write soldiers
during the Thanksgiving/Christmas Holidays.
I know Sinop, Turkey very well, I was there 18 months, from
1968-70. I was with the U.S. Army, Stratcom/Det. 169/ attached to
The ASA. I worked at the Transmitter Site/Airport, The Tropo
Site, as a repeater site. I remember the bowling alley, the
gym,and worked at the theater, selling tickets. I was billeted
close to the NCO Club.
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From: "Jim Phillips" jimp@vitrex.net
Subject: Comments on the Hill
Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999
,
I know you probably won't publish this on the web site but I
thought it might give you a laugh.
I was in a Navy radio class at Goodfellow Air Force Base when
five of us found out our assignment out of school was to be
Sinop, Turkey. One crusty old First Class Petty Officer, Hank
Kershner, who was in our class (we were Russian linguists) had
previously been at Sinop as a ditty bopper several years before.
His comment, which I remember to this day: "Ahhh, Sinop,
Turkey! I used to beat off so much in the shower when I was
there, that even today, every time it rains I get a hard
on!"
I should have a day next weekend that will allow me some time to
collect some thoughts and send them to you concerning names and
traditions that went on in the NAVDET during 1968-69. All my
pictures got stolen in New York upon my return to civilization or
I would gladly share some of them as well.
For the last thirty years, a post card of Sinop showing the view
from the Hill that shows up a number of places on your web site,
has hung on the wall of my office with a Russian saying beneath
it that loosely translated says "Where you haven't gone,
everything is closed!" That's to remind me that I spent the
first six months of my tour on base without trying the town of
Sinop, only to find that even now it still brings back some of my
favorite memories. Whenever I find myself afraid to try something
new, I look at that picture and it gives me the courage to
venture out of my shell. Sinop was a growing experience for us
all!!
Keep up the good work!!
Jim Phillips
NAVDET 68-69
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From: "Thomas N. Sigmon" TNSig@aol.com
Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999
Subject: US Military in Turkey
My name is Tom (Thomas) N. Sigmon. I served in Sinop from March
1969 to January 1970, reaching the rank of E-5 (Spec) while
there. I was assigned as admin clerk to the Army base commanders
office (HQ). I was another draftee, trying to stay out of Viet
Nam when assigned to ASA unit at TUSLOG Det4. For the previous
year I had been at Third US Army HQ at Ft. McPherson in Atlanta,
GA, working in the personnel reassignment office. I had been
removed from relocation orders to Nam for the third time when
told I must go somewhere. I must admit that Turkey was an
interesting place to go visit for a while.
I had casually mentioned being in Turkey while talking
to Jimmy Carter one day recently. He told me about your web site,
I looked and enjoyed.
...............................
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From: "Chris L White" cwhite-mu2pilotservices@pdq.net
Subject: Past contacts
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999
Bill,
Have you run across the name , Ray Thompson? Was at Sinop
somewhere in the 57-60 era. Played guitar with a group there. I
played guitar for G.I. quartet in Ankara. See attached -- Lee
Adams (Air Force), Howie McCollum (Army), Gene Severt (Army), Jim
Johnson (Air Force) and Me. PICTURE
I was at Ankara High School then, my Dad was Maj. Ed White and
made numerous trips to Sinop in the L-20 with pilots Broderick
and Piper.
Glad to see your web site. Keep up the good work.
Chris White
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From: "Harry Lance"
<HIPOCKETS40@email.msn.com>
Subject: A SINOP REUNION
Date: Sat, 23 Oct 1999
BILL
I KNOW THIS SOUNDS RIDICULOUS BUT HERE GOES.
HOW ABOUT A REUNION AT DET 4 IN TURKEY? SOUND CRAZY?
YEAH AND IT WOULD PROBABLY BE TO EXPENSIVE BUT I SURE WOULD LOVE
TO GO BACK AND SEE THE PLACE.
CURRENTLY THERE IS A YOUNG TURKISH INTERN WORKING WITH US. AS YOU CAN IMAGINE WE HAVE A LOT IN COMMON AND SPEND A LOT OF TIME TALKING ABOUT TURKEY. HE IS THE ONE WHO SUGGESTED IT. I TOLD HIM THAT I DOUBT WHETHER THE TURKISH ARMY WOULD LET US ON THE BASE AND HE SAID HE THOUGHT THEY WOULD.
ANY WAY, WHAT DO YOU THINK?
BY THE WAY I AM ALMOST READY TO SEND MORE PICTURES.
HOPE YOU CAN STILL GET THEM ON THE WEBSITE.
HARRY
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Harry, what an interesting idea!
I'll post your message on the Mailbag page and see how much
interest it generates for a reunion at Det. 4.
No problem with sending more pictures, I can always access additional storage space on the web site as required.
Bill
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Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999
From: Lori Myers <lamyers@bellsouth.net>
Subject: Sunny Sinop by the Sea
Hi there,
I'm Lori Myers and although I'm not from your time, I
was still trick trash and hated day beggars in 86-88! I was
searching the internet for any signs of my old gang, but I guess
no one has had the ambition to start a page, (like
me-ambitionless).
It was the best time of my life. If you know of any sites, please
let me know!
lori
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From: Bob Pauley BPauley@ssnbank.com
Subject: A HILL VET
Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1999
My name is Bob Pauley. I served on the "Hill" from 1986
to 1987 as the PAO. I was an Infantry captain. Bill as the PAO I
took many many pictures of everything to include videos from our
Army plane of Sinop. I have video of shows put on by soldiers,
Christmas tree cutting, marriages and sports events. If you are
interested in any of this email at home,
Pauley6@juno.com
Bill Simons replied : We are very much interested in your
pictures and look forward to posting many of them on this site.
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From: "Stoos, Dwayne" DStoos@bandag.com
Subject: ASA Sinop Webb Page
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 11:39:40 -0500
A friend of mine who was in the ASA at Fort Meade gave me the
address of your home page. I must say it did bring back a lot of
memories. I was part of that fine organization from June 1962
until June 1965. I got my training at Fort Devens, additional
training at Fort Meade and was in Sinop from May 1963 until May
1964. Steve, although we were in Sinop at the same time, I don't
remember your name. Perhaps you remember me, and can help refresh
my memory.
After leaving Sinop I did a ten day leave in Rome and on to Bad Aibling Germany until June 1965. Although I have fond memories of my days in Sinop, I must say I really enjoyed my 13 months in Germany.
Thanks for creating the site it gives me an opportunity to reconnect with my past.
Dwayne F. Stoos
dstoos@bandag.com
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From: "John G. Randgaard" jrandgaard@cybertrails.com
Subject: Sinop
Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999
My name is John G. Randgaard and I served in TULOG Det 4, Sinop
from 1962 to 1963. I was a Sgt E-5 when I arrived and a Sgt E-6
when I left.
My area was the Comcen. MOS 722.
E-mail jrandgaard@cybertrails.com.
All the best.
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Received this forwarded message from Cindy Polgar -
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From: aytug önkibar <Aytugo@veezy.com>
To: polgar@evestamail.com
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 1999
Subject: Sinop, a help
Hİ Cindy,
It was really a big surprise for me to find this site,while ı
was reading your stories, ı had great time. I am orıgınally
from Sinop.When you were working in the base I was a 11 years old
boy studying a boarding hıghschool in Samsun. After this I went
to unıvercity and studied bussiness administratıon. For seven
years I am living in Bodrum (a holiday place near aegean sea) and
managing a pub and two shops.My famıly is still living in Sinop.
By the way after all these times Turkey and Sinop both changed
very quıckly. One day if you could visit Sinop you will agree
with me.
I need a help of you. At the same time while you were working on
the base. I had a friend called Jay Russell Hall. He was 38 years
old and was knowing five languages ( ı think he was
listening).Our friendship lasted two or three years. After he
left Sinop he kept writing to me several times but I was a young
boy and could not keep in thouch.I think I could not recognized
that friendship is the most important thing in our lifes. I try
to reach him from internet bu t ı have met many of J.R.Hall. So
if you help to find him or show me the way that ı can, I will be
very pleased.
By the way thanks for the Sinop photos and memories it brought me
back to past. Take care.Hope to hear you.
Aytuğ Önkibar, Papatya Sok. No:16 , Bodrum / Muğla
Email to: Aytugo@veezy.com
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From: "Larry Ridgway" laryarmy@sgi.net
Subject: Re: Thanks
Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1999
I was in Turkey from 73 -74 (Sinop) and from 82 -83 I think! I worked at Hippodrome the first time as the Electronics supply guy. Then the next time at the head shed as the S-4 NCOIC and Quality Assurance Evaluator for the Turkish Base Maint Contract.
I remember Mark the first time there. And
I remember Sergeant Cook but I thought he was Operations sergeant
at one of those times. I have lost all of my pictures except a
few. I will do a web page and add them in.
Thanks,
Larry L. Ridgway
Anyone can reach me at "laryarmy@sgi.net".
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Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1999
Subject: TUSLOG Det 4-Sinop
From: "Vernon Cook/Elma V. Cook" evcvec@n-link.com
Your Web site has brought back many memories of Sinop. My husband
SGM (RET) Vernon E. Cook and I were newly wed when we arrived in
Sinop on August of 1973. He worked at Hippodrome and then was the
First Sergeant for 2/3 years. We didn't intend to stay as long as
we did -1973-1977, but we were enjoying ourselves so much that we
kept extending. I think that a lot of people thought that we were
crazy, but that didn't bother us.
I was the Education Counselor for three years. I had
the opportunity to meet everyone arriving in Sinop. We were one
big family.
We experienced several strikes by the Turkish workers and also
the take-over of our post by the Turkish Army during the Cyprus
crisis. We were no longer allowed to fly the American flag nor
were we able to receive packages. Regardless of the
inconveniences, (endless days without electricity, water, mail)
we still remained in Sinop.
After 30 years in the Army, Vernon retired here at Ft. Hood in 89. He works for the Texas Prison System as a grievance officer. After teaching 5th grade for 26 years I retired last year.
I will send you some wonderful pictures of Sinop as
soon as I can locate them. Thank you for bringing back such
wonderful memories. I would like to hear from former Sinopians
who were there between 73 -77.
Elma Cook
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Date: Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999
From: Richard Fulton <richfulton@earthlink.net>
Subject: Turkey
I was at Tuslog Det 4 in Sinop while it was a 50 man outpost in
1957-58,
we all lived in 4 man tents. Quite a place.
What year were you there ? Also have a brother named
Don Fulton that
was there about 10 years after me but by that time they made a
regular base
with barracks, mess hall and even a movie theatre.
Will look forward to hearing from you...
Rich Fulton
Wofford Heights, CA
(Lake Isabella)
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Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999
From: Gil Bouffard gbouffard@jps.net
Organization: G.A. Bouffard Knowledge Systems
Subject: Haven't fixed the mail bag, huh?
A note
I served twice at Sinop 66-67 managed KBOK when it was in the Old DOOM Club and 71-72, Did another stint at KBOK with that nasty window that people could peek in to see us at work.
Ah Ha! That wasn't my MOS..I was a 98J. Worked at Bankhead III and Hippodrome (same place). Painted the racing car picture that was in the A Company Day Room. (George Folmer in a Sunoco Porsche 917/10 at Riverside. Cresting the hill as I remember it.)
Visit www.norpaccrows.org
I was going to send this earlier and got punched off the mailbag.
Back in 1972, Robbie Adams had a go kart.
Briggs&Stratton Mower motor.
We used to take turns racing the thing around the base main road.
I was
coming down past the HQ Bldg and tried to take the left turn near
PMO to
go back up the hill when the steering broke...I went straight off
on the
road to HIPPY. Never got that thing fixed.
Gil
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From: "rich uttke" uttke@itis.com
Subject: Gone To The Dogs
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999
Bill - I was reading the new "dogs" page when the name
of one of them struck a cord. Not because I knew any dogs - I
don't think there were any during my time there - but because of
the name "ufuk". I rememeber being taught that ufuk
cho-juke (phonentic) was small child. So naturally, I whipped out
my trusty Turkish Dictionary ande found "ufuk" which
means horizon. Since that made no sense, I looked further and
found "ufak" which means "small" or
"little". My guess is that "ufak" is
pronounced u-fuk. Americans were always looking for Turkish words
that either were swear words or sounded like them. My further
guess is that a GI overheard a turk talking about the dog perhaps
when it was a puppy (if the breed was large). Who knows?
That's the great thing about your site - it drags
memories out of the
dustbin of my mind.
Have a great vacation (Ernie Wright has invited my wife, grandson, and I to his house for a barbeque - thanks again, Bill).
Rich
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From: Benjamin Winstead benny@ncsc.mil
Subject: Good Stuff
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999
Organization: ASEC
I have been trying to date and origin a couple of
smoking pipes given to me by my brother-in-law (Turkish). He
dredged them up in a fishing net long ago and one of them is
pristine condition. I have photographed and scanned them and have
sent them to every musuem that I thought would help. Finally, a
man by the name of Fredrick Heibert contacted me. He is part of a
Robert Ballard (found Titanic) study of the Black Sea area.
Fredrick asked for my electronic photos and is evaluating the
pipes for me.
It's exciting. But..... you gotta check out this SITE
if you are really interested in the history of Sinop. Please post
a link on your Tuslog site.
tks. Benny
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From: "Steve Stubbs" AllStubbs@aol.com
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999
Subject: Goofy idea
My bride commented the other day, since I've been sitting
bleary-eyed in front of my monitor tracking down old ASA-types,
that wouldn't it be interesting to get the perspective of some
folks who were sitting on the other side of the Black Sea during
the halcyon days of Sinop?
Chuckling, I did start thinking about the occasional story one
reads about WW2 fighter pilot types, etc., meeting their
contemporaries and raising a glass many years afterward.
My Son was in Russia about a year ago for a quick,
college-sponsored trip. It must now really be a have/have not
society. Wondering if any of the haves with computers, etc.,
might have been Soviet equivalents of Agency? How in the world
would we find them (tune in and call the guys at the Point Site,
right)?
Dunno if it would rate any effort, but might be interesting to
find out if anybody has any ideas along these lines.
Have a good 'un...
Steve Stubbs
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Date: Wed, 25 Aug
1999 12:05:27 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Sinop 84-85 87-88
From: Don Cade <Donald.Cade@usaa.com>
Name: Don Cade
Great site. The pictures bring back some good memories.
I'd like to hear from some of my old fellow trackers from Hippy.
Thanks
Don Cade
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From: "ömer harmantepe" omerharmantepe@hotmail.com
Subject: Merhaba (hello)
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999
hi again
I hope you think the earthquake reached to Sinop or not.
No, it didn't reach.
I spoke with my family (they are still living there) they said me
nothing happened there. Everything is OK.
Next week I will visit Sinop again.If anyone want new pictures
please
send me postadresses .(not e-mail adresses)
see you again bye............
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From: Steve Stubbs <AllStubbs@aol.com>
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999
Subject: An ex "Sinop Yacht Club" member
I was at Sinop from early October 1963 through late September
1964.
Is it possible to "post me" on your page of names in
hopes someone from that era might still be around to see it? Have
often wondered what that beautiful little village might look like
these days. In those days, many of us bought "shares"
in small sailing craft built to U.S. plans by locals. Built with
nails, not screws, but sailed pretty well. Without doubt, the
clearest water I've seen before or since.
Thanks for your efforts of posting this info...brings back many
memories.
Steve Stubbs <allstubbs@aol.com>
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From: ron@red-orange.com
Subject: Hi - Thanks for the site!
Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999
How can I have my name placed on the bulletin board? I have many
old
friends and met many many people on the Hill between Sept 1974
and Sept 1975
since I was stationed in the Chapel. We had just about everyone
come through
there at one time or another.
My wife and I cherished our time there and wanted to
stay longer but
when the Turks took over we figured its best to leave while we
could.
We know one person listed on your site (Marvin Miller,
our post Turkish
linguist) and I have already written to him.
I love your site and will dig up some old photos for you.
Ron Dunlap, 74-75, ron@red-orange.com,
Chaplain's Assistant
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Date: Tue, 17 Aug
1999
Subject: Earthquake
From: Don Mohler djmohler@yahoo.com
Any one have any idea if the 8/16/99 earthquake in northern
turkey had any effect on Sinop et. al.?
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From: "Lou Seelig" <LCSeelig@aol.com>
Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 07:57:19 -0400
I was stationed in Sinop in 1974 as a Major. I was the
Comptroller. My e-mail address is LCSeelig@aol.com. I retired
from the Army in 1990 as a Colonel.
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Date: Sun, 8 Aug
1999 17:04:41 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Tuslog Det 4 April 1974 to April 1975
From: Dennis Brewer <woodman0909@excite.com>
I was suprised to find a site about Sinop. I had lots of
pictures, but sent them home with a buddy and he lost them
somehow, was glad to find this site it sure brought back a lot of
old memories. I was stationed there from April 1974 to April 1975
worked in the teletype shop.
Thanks again, Dennis
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Date: Sun, 8 Aug
1999 18:57:26 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Tuslog Det 27/Ankara
From: Joe Thomas <hoglawfl@aol.com>
Great site...friend of mine turned me on to it. Does anyone know
a a similar site for Det 27? I went to Ankara in 1960 when we had
a few bunks in USAF barracks, and then graduated to living on the
economy. Before I left they opened site 23 (karamiseli station),
and that was far from any night life. Had a buddy in the motor
pool and we would borrow a deuce and half frequently to go to
town for the bars. Anyway, if anyone has contacts for old Det 27
ASA get in touch.
Joe Thomas/hoglawfl@aol.com
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Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 06:40:07 -0400
(EDT)
Subject: Sinop 84/85
From: Derrick Fowler <Dfowler111@yahoo.com>
Just wanted to tell you that I loved you site ! I was
stationed on the "hill" from Oct. 84 to Dec. 85 as an
MP. I have a ton of good quality photos I'll send to you so you
can post them on your site. I would love to hear from any one
stationed there during the same time as I.
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Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 12:15:08 -0500
From: CB Mays <cmays@hsc.unt.edu>
Subject: TUSLOG DET.4-1
I arrived in Ankara, Turkey on 16 November 1962
enroute to Det. 4 at Sinop. At that time there was a TUSLOG DET.
4-1, Aviation and Liaison Section located across Attaturk Blvd.
from the American Embassy. It was located behind the JUSMAT Annex
and the Greek Embassy (I think). There was some embassy there for
sure. Sometimes when we got a little rowdy and strayed onto their
grounds, someone in the embassy would yell out a window for us to
get off embassy property. The Air force bowling alley was just
behind us. Det 4-1 was located in a small building with the
National Security Agency.
When I arrived with three other Yenis I was pulled aside by the
Liaison personnel and asked if I would like to return to work in
Ankara. After about one minute of consideration, I agreed.
Working in Ankara would be an eighteen month tour as opposed to
twelve months at Sinop. I was told that I would have to go to
Sinop and "process in".
We were transported there on the truck convoy that ran between
Ankara and Sinop about once a week then. We went over the
mountains and there was snow and it was very cold. When we left
Ankara some cold steak sandwiches and wooden cartons of orange
juice was loaded into the trucks for our eating and drinking
needs. When we got into the mountains, we became very cold from
riding in the back of the trucks and someone had the idea to
pouring out the orange juice and cutting off the tops of the cans
and to break up the wooden crates to build fires in the cans.
After a little while ,smoke was pouring out the rear of the
trucks and the convoy commander stopped the convoy and ordered us
to throw all the cans out and admonished us to not build any more
fires in
the trucks. I believe that the trip took about twelve to fourteen
hours to complete. When I arrived in Sinop, I was shocked to see
the isolation. I "processed in" in about a week and
returned to my duty station in Ankara. This time I went by truck
to Samsun and then by Turkish Airlines to Ankara.
At the time that I was in the Aviation and Liaison Section in
Ankara, there were two army aircraft in Ankara and later on in my
tour of duty another aircraft was located in Sinop. There was a
twin engine Beech or Cessna and a single engine Otter (I
believe)in Ankara and a single engine Otter in Sinop. The pilots
in Ankara during the period that I was there were Capt. William
A. Graham, Jr. (West Point Graduate) and CWO Jimmy E. Johnson.
The Pilot in Sinop was CWO Wotten. There were two Aircraft
mechanics in Ankara, Sp/4 Gary Gilmore who left in the summer of
1963 and Sp/5 Loudmiller who left soon after I arrived. SP/4
Melvin Jones arrived from Germany to replace him. There were
several other mechanics whose names I can not recall. They were
sent TDY from Germany for short periods. There was one Aircraft
mechanic stationed in Sinop.
The Aircraft in Ankara were located on the military side of
Esenboga Airport. In the Liaison section, there was S/Sgt Edward
Landis, SP/4 Frank S. Wert who left in the summer of 1963, later
he was replaced by SP/5 William Glazier (Turkish Interpreter).
Our job in the liaison section was to met all the new arrivals
and get them to Sinop whatever way possible. Sometimes they were
sent on truck convoy, our army aircraft, or via Turkish Airlines
to Samsun. We also elped all personnel from Sinop who were on
R&R or leaving for the states after their tours were
completed. I didn't get to know the guys at Sinop very well, but
most of them knew me by name since I was generally the first Army
personnel they encountered when they arrived in country and one
of the last they saw when they left. When they came down on
R&R or to rotate, they wanted me to give them advice where to
go for fun or fix them up. In the process of doing my job, I got
the" phone number" from someone (I don't remember now).
When I left the country I passed this phone number on to my
replacement and he continued to use it. One could call the number
and arrange for female company to meet them and spend the night.
The girls were very nice and I never received a complaint during
the time I was there from anyone who used the number. Most of the
time when the new guys arrived I would take them out on the town
and show them around. We used the AFEX and had some type of
ration card that limited the amount of booze and cigarettes that
one could purchase per month. I purchased an item for a Turk and
got into trouble with the Air Force Police. My AFEX privileges
were taken away for awhile. They took my ration card and would
not issue me another. Not long after this one of the guys who
worked in S-1 at Sinop was rotating out and when he arrived in
Ankara, he had about five hundred blank ration cards which he
gave to me. I did not ask any questions, but perhaps word had
gotten back to the hill about my predicament. I had done some
minor favor for him and he was repaying me and screwing the Army
at the same time. After that I always had plenty of smokes and
booze for the reminder of my tour. I had to go back to Sinop to
"process out" around the first week in May 1964. I
spent about three or four days at Sinop and flew out via Pan
American on 15 May 1963.
Anyone wanting to contact me see E-mail address below.
SP/4 C.B. Mays, E-mail address <cmays@hsc.unt.edu>
16 November 1962 to 15 May 1964
TUSLOG DET 4-1 Aviation and Liaison Section, Ankara, Turkey
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From: Edward_Smith@HomeDepot.COM
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 18:36:11 -0400
Subject: Sinop
I was stationed at Tuslog Det. 4 from April '67 to June '68. I
was on Trick 3 and an O5D. During the winter of '67 our trick
wore red stocking caps around the post and barracks. And we also
had a Season Greetings that Light up over the barracks sign that
year.
I was also Don "Chicago" Hubbard on KBOK
radio.
I played center field for the post team that went to Samsun and
Ankara.
I wonder if any O5D's that came after me can recall
the brown dog we had
out at our hut by the name of "Mark" and what happened
to him?
Here are some names of guys that I was stationed with
that I did not
see on your list:
Tom Urban, Bob Dozier, Frank Gay, Hank Talcott, Tom Snead, John
Thurston, John Kastner (17075 Lisbon Rd., Brookfield, WI 53005).
I now work here for Home Depot in the Import Division
(770) 384-2820
My wife and 3 children live in Roscoe, IL and I commute between
there
and Atlanta on weekends.
10594 Grove Oaks Rd
Roscoe, IL 61073
Ph: (815) 623-3170
Best of Luck on your name searches.
ED "Smitty" Smith
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From: "Roger Habeck" rhabeck@mindspring.com
Subject: Det -4
Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 01:59:59 -0400
I was a 17 year old 980 when I arrived on the Hill in
1958. I turned 18 there. I was pretty green and my big memory is
of a long jeep trip to Samsun where I was taken to the women's
prison and educated into the mysteries of life and sex. I had a
carefully selected instructor and she got me off to a good start.
I also remember the rolling of the fire barrels down the hill
into the BOQ.
I helped work on the chapel some and I was on the crew that
smuggled the bell from the Black Sea Steamer (the courier had
brought it) back to the hill.
Bought a custom made suit, bright green, pants were 9 day
s______s. Got the suit wet the third time I wore it. It stank so
bad I burned it. Had a pair of custom made goat leather boots,
they shrank. I had a terrific horse, Yuldiz (star) belonged to
the butcher and he got him back when I left. Lots of other stuff,
I was pretty immature and it was amazing how much the older guys
looked out for me.
I did 10 months when I was pulled out unexpectedly and shipped to
Rothwesten. I remember that three days before I was to leave I
got in a crap game (on the pool table in the club, did anyone
ever shoot pool?) I rolled 13 passes in a row and broke everyone
at the table, if I remember right, I won over $300.00. Then I had
to give most of it to a buddy, Paul Hollister, who was supposed
to leave with me but owed a bunch of people money.
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From: GDEFED@webtv.net (gary De Federicis) Add to Address Book
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 21:19:33 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: sinop
just wanted to let you know how much i enjoyed the site, i was
stationed there with usasa in 1974-75, pictures brought back a
lot of
memories. sure wish i could find some of the people there i was
stationed with. again, thank you
gary r. defedericis
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From: "ömer" harmantepe omerharmantepe@hotmail.com
Subject: THANKS...........
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 08:03:33 PDT
Hi sir!
First of all everything I thank you a lot for your website about
SİNOP .
I'm from SİNOP and am 23 years old. I didn't see some of your pictures from SİNOP before . They are very nice. If you have any other old SİNOP pictures please send me.... If you want some new I can send.
Here ıs my adress:
Ömer Harmantepe
Yeşilce mahallesi Kemaliye sokak NO :5
İSTANBUL/TURKEY
Thanks for everything about Sinop
bye....))
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Date: Wed, 09 Jun 1999 20:38:49 -0400
From: Steve Heintz <sheintz@home.com>
Subject: Sinop, Turkey - TUSLOG Det 4 and Det 4-2
Hi Bill,
Just on a whim, and boredom, I went to Snap.com and entered
Tuslog Det 4-2. And you popped up. I was ASA, and on the Hill for
about sixty days, when I learned of Det 4-2 at Incirlik. I
volunteered for it. The 1st Sergeant said I was nuts. "If
you're really serious, come back at 0800 on Monday, and I'll put
your name on the list." I had to get off that hill. This was
in 1964. So I went back. He shook his head at me and put me down.
The next day he called me and and said pack your gear.
I flew with 4-2 for two more years. One of Newton's Laws of Physics states, "If you're in Turkey, you can't be in Viet Nam." I kept voluntarily extending to avoid SE Asia. It worked. When I had less than a year on my hitch, they sent me to Devens as an instructor. We had more than our share of tough spots most of them in the air, chased by the guys with no sense of humor and having the plane break at the most inopportune times.
It was my idea of dropping leaflets on the Hill. On one flight, as we cleared the coast, heading north, it was a clear day and we could see Sinop very clear. The pilot, a Navy LCDR asked me about life down there. We chatted about it and he vowed that if we ever got an "abort" we'd buzz them. I suggested dropping leaflets on the Army. Of course the navy crew loved the idea. I typed up leaflets, nine to a sheet, took them to base reproduction, got a hundred printed, cut them apart, so now I had nine hundred three inch leaflets. They said things like, "Everybody on the hill is yeni" and stuff like that. I saved a copy of them and still have two or three somewhere. Carried that bag for months until one day we did get an abort. The plane inverted, the top hatch was opened and the leaflets flowed out just like in the movies. It was great.
Det 4 responded by MAILING us their own leaflets. Weak.
I had a great life in Adana. I had an English girlfriend, started a tour business with an English speaking Turk, who studied Engineering at the University of Michigan and traveled all over the middle east and the Mediterranean. I got more out of it than the Army got out of me.
Steve Heintz
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From: "SP4 Carl Powell" <ProAngel@aol.com>
Date: Sun, 23 May 1999
23:13:38 EDT
Subject: Sinop
Great site! I was stationed in Sinop from Dec 75 until March 77! (During the base shutdown.) I assume that the base returned to operations at some point; do you know when?
I'll look forward to visiting and contributing to this site!
Sp4 Carl Powell, Tuslog Det 4, Sinop, Turkey.
Dec 16, 1975 until March 20, 1977.
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Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 16:14:22 -0500
From: Harris and Donna-Lynne Miller <hgmdlm@swbell.net>
Subject: Sinop 1957-1958
It just blows me away that I found this
site. It never dawned on me that anyone from the post would have
a web-site so I was just scrounging around for something on
Sinop.
I was there from June, 1957 thru June, 1958. While I have
pictures I do not have a scanner but will rectify that very soon.
I was 21 when I went over and I have great memories. It was
fairly rugged, but we had a small EM club, showers twice a day,
lots of lamb for chow. There were no stationary buildings except
for the ops center, which still left something to be desired. But
for a kid it was great.
We had a camp mascot. "Gimp" was his name. He had a leg
missing but got around real well. The town was not very friendly
and except for the folks who kept us "clean" there was
not much communication. There was a young sheepherder who lived
just off the post, he must have been about 14 or so. Since my
"work" took me off of the main post into the fields
where he tended sheep we spent a good bit of time together. It
looks like I will have to get those pictures out. Thanks for the
site. I'll be back.
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Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 20:41:07 -0700
From: Jack Kraemer <jwkiv@uswest.net>
Subject: Sinop 73-74
Glad I found this site. I was beginning
to believe that I dreamed it all. I have hundreds of pictures I'd
like to share with everyone.
My next purchase for my system will be a scanner.
I was the NCOIC of Crypto Maint at Ops during my stay on the
Hill. I also ran the Sportsman Club from August 73 until I left
in 74.
I'll check in weekly until I can get my pictures up on the net.
Jack Kraemer
SFC USA-Ret
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From: Dennis Stancel <EEyeFrog@aol.com>
Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 21:07:17 EDT
Subject: Sinop '74-'75
My god, you mean it was real and I didn't imagine it? Seriously,
this is the best thing I have found on the net, and I would like
to thank you for a chance to find some of the finest people I've
had the pleasure to work with.
Oh yeah, and some of the biggest SOB's I ever came into contact
with.
One thing about it, no one who was ever there will ever forget
it! I do have a picture you may be interested in, an aerial view
of the Hill from that timeframe. As soon as I figure out how to
convert a tif file to a JPEG I'll e-mail it to you.
Always remember, THY stands for Try to Hurt Yourself.
Dennis "Dink" Stancel
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From: "Habina, Paul" Paul.Habina@20thcentins.com
Subject: Sinop Det 4
Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 15:45:09 -0700
Found your site last night. Brought back too many memories, not
all ofwhich were pleasant. I was stationed at Sinop 10-72 -10-73
as a 98G.
The pamphlet you describe was still available for sale in 1972. I
brought a copy of it home with me. I have not seen it for years.
Will think about it and try to contribute something to your site.
It was such a small part of the military but a large part of my
life at the time.
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The following messages appeared in Burt Schlesinger's ASA news
letter. Since they deal with people and actions at Sinop, Det. 4,
I've copied them here to the mailbag. I was not aware of the
controversy about the chapel, nor was I aware that the soldiers
had built it themselves.
If you would like to receive Burt
Schesinger's ASA newsletter, you may contact him via Email at
<slesingerburt@spacey.net>
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"Long time friend COL Dimpster Epperson passed away in his
sleep on 21 April.... Dimp had served several tours with ASA, and
was a FASAF booster for over 20 years. He was instrumental in the
retention of the soldier-built chapel in Sinop when the decision
was being considered to raze it and have professionals build
another. Since I was among those who toiled on the original
chapel, I always appreciated his having gone to bat to preserve
it. His final work with ASA was as a civilian on the team
(USASACDAASG) that procured the AN/FLR9s at Augsburg and Udorn.
His wife, Helen, can be contacted at P.O. Box 720447, Norman, OK
73070 should anyone wish to send condolences. Dimp was 83 years
old and will be missed. This information was provided via Joe
Wheeler to Jess James to me. "
** More on Epperson ** **
From Nat Alderman - "As you know, I too toiled and fought
for the orginal Sinop chapel. So well I remember the
"discussions" between Bill Clark and Dimp
"assessing" just how Dimp would support and justify
modifications to the new hill sky line -- to insure the
continuance an preservation of the work the troops had put forth
for their chapel."
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From: "Don Henry" <Braklfritz@aol.com>
Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 23:42:41 EDT
Subject: ASA cryptanalyst of sorts, at Sinop 4/57 to 4/58
To: billsimons@rocketmail.com
I was at Det 4 from April 1957 through April 1958 as a
cryptanalyst.
I see Lee Neeley, our radio operator has a page. When I master
this Internet stuff I will prepare one as well.
I would sure like to hear from any my old buddies: Felix Herubin,
Jim Clarke, (Ed?) McCloskey, Msgt Gibbons, and all the others
whose memories lie dim and only partiallly accessible 40 years
later.
The crypto guys know more about the links to the U-2's out of
Adana and the rest of the network, and I would dearly love to
reminisce.
It was perhaps the most, if not the only really exciting thing I
ever did. Percy Gravenhise, Al Cassatt and all the guys in our
clsss at Fort Devens, are you still alive?
Don Henry is Braklfritz@aol.com.
My phone number is (503) 668-6203.
My mailing address is:
17655 SE Bluff Rd,
Space 6
Sandy Oregon 97055.
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From: "Tom Abrials" <TAbrials@aol.com>
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 20:01:27 EDT
Subject: Det 4-Sinope
I was in good olde Sinope in 1957-1958. We lived in the mud among
the Jamesway huts, froze to death, caught all types of medical
things, got bad haircuts, bad shaves at the barber shop, had one
shower a week, ate half American and Turkish food, got sick, went
to the potty with snow on the seats and rats eating at your tail
end, saw real first class mutiny (some troops decided to burn the
BOQ down), learned Turkish quick (don't know why), helped build
Boyd Chapel, got sick, ended up in Ankara bringing supplies into
the site.
A real trip to say the least.
Regards,
Tom Abrials, CW3 (USA Retired)
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Date: Mon, 19 Apr
1999 11:18:57 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Anybody in Sinop in 1970
From: "Michael O'Connell" osea@bigfoot.com
(no message
included)
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From: "rich uttke" uttke@itis.com
To: <polgar@iolusa.com>
Subject: Peach
Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 23:58:06 -0500
Cindy, Great new stuff. I had completely forgotten the word
"peach". The last time I heard it was from a coworker
at the Wisconsin department of Veterans Affairs here in Madison.
He was in the Air Force in Turkey and practiced his Turkish swear
words whenever we passed in the hall. I believe "peach"
(who knows how it is really spelled) means bastard. I gotta get a
Turkish/English dictionary.
Take care, Rich
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Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 22:18:54 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Det 4
From: Harry Lance hlance40@aol.com
I was stationed at Det 4 from Mar 59 thru Mar 60. I was an 058.
I really enjoy reading all of the experiences and seeing the pictures.
I would enjoy hearing from any or all folks who were there. Since I left before any new structure was built I would love to see any pictures of what the base looked after it was reconstructed.
If anyone remembers Tom Yanko, Ed Harrison, Bob Malone, Joe Masula, Jack Mckenna, Tom Lynch, or ? Allen ( he was a collegiate rower and left early to participate in the Pan American games in 60.) please let me know. If they are reading this please reply, would love to hear from you.
Harry Lance
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From: "Ron Bowman" <rbowman@integctr.com>
Subject: The Hill - 1975
Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 19:48:34 -0500
I got to Sinop in February, 1975 and departed in March, 1976.
During that time there was a lot of activity but not operational
wise. That was during the time the Turkish Government closed down
all the operating bases.
One day everyone was employed and the next, no one had a job. Everything was shut down according to the directions we received. What a time.
If you know of anyone who was there during that time please let me know.
Ron Bowman
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Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999
02:23:49 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Sinop Reunion
From: Jim
"Mac" Kipp-McGuire <silvertip@theriver.com>
Spent a year there one night!
Probably many of you have had the same experience. Really was
83-84. Had a big reunion at Ft. Huachuca on July 4, 1985 and am
giving thought to doing it again. Please drop me a note if you
are interested and if it looks like there is enough interest, and
I ever get to slow down from my present occupation, I'll try and
put another together.
Got to see the closing of the Sportsman and as they
say, been there, got the T-shirt.
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From: "Dick
Schoeninger" <amisbest@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Sinop
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 14:38:54 -0500
Thanks for this web page. It
really brought back memories. I am going to send you some pics
for your site. I have a pic of Roland and a couple of the
buildings. They are a little grainy since they are over 30 years
old. Feel free to put them up on your site. I was there from June
1966 to April 1976. 11 months and 10 days (Who didn't count?).
I'll send you some more details with the pics. Thanks again for
your time in putting up this site.
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From: "POLGAR" <polgar@iolusa.com>
Subject: Sinop Det 169
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 15:08:09 -0800
I was so excited to find your
website.
I was stationed on Sinop in 1981.
What fun recalling some of the words we used and seeing some of
the pictures posted. My favorite pastime on the hill was
rapelling out on the cliffs. I loved exploring up on the hill and
down in the town. I had many Turkish friends. They gave us the
routine about going downtown in pairs and not saying
"peach" and not showing the soles of our shoes, Etc.
but I didn't care! I loved the place and the people.
I loved the food too. ekmek (bread) and Baklava. I hated the Raki
- something about the way it turned white when you pour a little
water in, wasn't it kind of black licorice tasting?
Anyway, allahsmarladik !
Cindy
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Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 15:11:56
-0500 (EST)
Subject: SINOP MEMORABILIA/PICTURES
From: DENNIS RUSSELL <RUSS027@IBM.NET>
HELLO, MY NAME IS DENNIS RUSSELL AND I WAS STATIONED AT TUSLOG DET FOUR FROM JULY OF 1968 TO JULY 1969. YOUR SITE BRINGS BACK MANY MEMORIES, BOTH GOOD AND NOT SO GOOD. I WAS BILLETED IN ROOSEVELT HALL ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE QUAD.
I HAVE SEVERAL PICTURES NOT
ALREADY IN YOUR FILES AND SOME OTHER ITEMS OF INTEREST THAT I
WOULD LIKE TO SHARE. I DO NOT HAVE ACCESS TO A SCANNER, IS THERE
SOME OTHER WAY TO GET THESE ITEMS INTO YOUR SITE??
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Bill replies: There sure is. Just mail them to me and I can scan
them here and return the originals to you by mail the next day,
no problem.
My address is
Bill simons, 155 Newbolds Corner Rd., Southampton, NJ 08088-8807.
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Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 16:14:46 -0500 (EST)
Subject: SINOP
From: "ROBERT D. COURSON JR." badbob@tucomm.net
I WAS STATIONED AT DET 4 FROM 74 TO 75. ONE OF THE BEST
THINGS I REMEMBER WERE THE DITCH PARTIES WE HAD ON THE FIRST NICE
DAY OF SPRING. FIRST BEER WAS THROWN IN THE CULVERT TO APPEASE
THE DITCH MONSTER AND HE WOULD NOT ATTACK US LEAVING THE
SPORTSMAN CLUB OR THE NCO CLUB DURING ONE OF THE FOGGY NIGHTS WE
HAD THERE. I WAS IN CRYPTO REPAIR AND LOOKING FOR ANY ONE
STATIONED THERE AT THE SAME TIME.
TEX
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Reply-To: "Ernest C. Wright" <ewright1@netins.net>
From: "Ernest C. Wright" <ewright1@netins.net>
To: "rich uttke" <uttke@itis.com>
Cc: "Bill Simons" <billsimons@rocketmail.com>
Subject: Sinop memories
Date: Mon, 8 Mar 1999 11:10:02 -0600
Hey Rich and Bill,
I had an amazing thing happen to me this weekend. We
were at a show in Iowa City and I was chatting with a friend I've
known who sells his hand-made paper creations. I've known this
guy for fifteen years but he didn't know I was in the military in
Turkey until yesterday.
We were chatting about the web and computer-related stuff because
he works as a journalist and uses his computer quite a bit. I
mentioned the Sinop site and both of you, and he told me the only
connection he has with anything Turkish is that his college
roommate, a fellow named Bruce A. Tullis, went to Turkey in '69
or '70 after graduating from ROTC and the U. of Iowa and was lost
at sea in a boating accident off the coast of Turkey!
This of course is the guy we have all heard about and the
accident happened at Sinop, if accident it was. Greg told me that
Bruce disliked water very much that he always skipped P.E. in
college when they were swimming. He could never figure out just
why Bruce might have been in a small sailboat on the Black Sea.
He would never have heard about it had his wife not spotted a
small article in the Des Moines register in 1970. They clipped
the article and he is going to try to find it and send an image
of it to me. An interesting coincidence, wouldn't you
agree? .....
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From: "Ben Winstead"
<benny@ncsc.mil>
Subject: RE: What a
Surprise
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999
06:56:00 -0500
Organization: ASEC
...... Last time we were there Sinop was fixing up the
harbor front area and making it a real park like atmosphere. I'll
try to get some newer photos from the family. My wife remembers a
lady and her husband who were in Sinop mid to late 70s. She
believes his name is Tom Snyder (sp) and the wife's Sofia (?). I
would guess they would be in their 60s. They were like a second
mom and dad to my wife and her sister, and would like to track
them down. If you have any ideas please forward this along. tks
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From: James Baker <Bakerpoudr@aol.com >
Date: Sat, 6 Mar 1999 16:04:31 EST
Subject: Musings and such about Sinop
My name is Jim Baker and I
served at Sinop from March 1957 to March 1958. I was in the
second "wave" to go to The Hill, and found it
fascinating, frustrating, and satisfying. Of course, the
highlights of my tour were the launching of Sputniks I and II,
but daily life, both in and out of ops, made a lasting impression
on me. I did write a long, rambling memoir of my time and sent it
to the After Action Report. (Don't know if you're familiar with
that pub or not. It is put out by Jack Legere, who was a civilian
at the ASA School for years. It is published four times a year
and is full of stories, pictures and gossip about ASA.)
I would definately like to learn more about the website and any
future plans for reunions of Sinop alumni. Please let me know
about such and if there is anything I can provide from my time
there. (Sorry, there are no pictures left.)
Jim
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Date: Sun, 7 Mar 1999 18:06:28
-0500 (EST)
Subject: RE: Sunny Sinop by the Sea
From: Lou Bright <lbright@tabc.state.tx.us>
I was on the hill as a 98C from 2/72 until 6/72. Fresh out of Devens, imagine my surprise to learn that the only work for a 98C was halls & walls, burning trash & abi watch. As I remember it, my buddy Tom Snyder & I threw a fit to a Major from Vint Hill (after being told not to talk to him) & they changed the TO&E and shipped all the 98C's out.
Does anyone remember Sp/5
Willard T. Crenshaw?
He was my personal role model.
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Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 13:52:11
-0500 (EST)
Subject: Sinop, August 69 to August 70
From: Mike Gillespie <borderstar@hotmail.com>
Was a 98J working at Project Morehead (the "bubble").
It was a very strange year.
Reading back through the mailbag jogged my memory--windstorms,
the burro, the bowling alley, KBOK, etc.
Have a lot of stories of my own that I will post from time to
time.
I'm surprised to read that drug use was so prevalent before and
after I was there. My impression was that it was non-existent
during my year's tour.
If anybody recognizes my name,
or was there at approximately the
same time, I'd sure be glad to hear from them.
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Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 01:35:21
-0500 (EST)
Subject: Sinop 63-64
From: Wayne Rupp <WRUPP@ezonline.com>
Worked as an 056 (RDF) at the point site.
Names that come to mind: Bob Shadwick, Dave Rosies, Silas Wylie, Jim Johnston, Kim Stoval, Pete Cavanaugh...
Memories: Kennedy's death, thought of as communist plot at the time, and prelude to invasion of the base from Russia.
Shortimer ribbons (ribbon off VO
bottle) when you had 69 days or less to go.....when first shirt
tried to put an end to this practice by confiscating all the
ribbons off the bottles as they came in, someone wrote to
Seagrams and explained the situation. Seagrams sent an entire
roll of the ribbon to us.
Being snowed in at the point site and eating C rations.
Spending first couple of weeks there in Quonset Hut and having to
get dusted for "crotch crickets" because someone
brought them back to barracks from Ankara.
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Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 16:52:54
-0500 (EST)
Subject: What a Surprise
From: Ben Winstead <benny@ncsc.mil>
I search the net for Turkish * whenever I get a chance and was very surprised to find this site. I served as the S3 Chief from 91-92 and tried to stay for the closing. DA said no cuz I married a woman from SINOP. Bet you oldtimers (pre75) find that amazing!!
Went back in 97 and things have really changed. As soon as I arrived, rumors started around town that we (US) were opening up again. Wish that was true.
I am now retired and living in
Glen Burnie Maryland, with my Turkish wife and two kids. Would
love to contact folks serving the mid early 80s to 90s in Sinop.
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From: "rich uttke"
<uttke@itis.comu>
Subject: Sinop Page
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 21:55:35 -0600
Bill, Just wanted you to know
that the first picture (HQ etc) in Mike
Gillespie's page doesn't seem to be working. I did get a kick out
of
seeing his picture, however (and I thought I looked strange).
Trying to look like a civilian while in the military never seemed
to work.
I remember being in Georgetown (D.C.) walking with a bunch of
GIs. We had all tried to let our hair grow and some of us even
had non-black shoes. It didn't matter. We hadn't taken more than
5 steps when we all neatly fell into step. Clomp! Clomp! Clomp!
As soon as one guy would try to break step, so would someone
else. There'd be a flurry of shuffling and then ... clomp, Clomp,
CLOMP!
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Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 01:35:21
-0500 (EST)
Subject: Sinop 63-64
From: Wayne Rupp <WRUPP@ezonline.com>
Worked as an 056 (RDF) at the point site.
Names that come to mind: Bob Shadwick, Dave Rosies, Silas Wylie, Jim Johnston, Kim Stoval, Pete Cavanaugh...
Memories: Kennedy's death, thought of as communist plot at the time, and prelude to invasion of the base from Russia.
Shortimer ribbons (ribbon off VO
bottle) when you had 69 days or less to go.....when first shirt
tried to put an end to this practice by confiscating all the
ribbons off the bottles as they came in, someone wrote to
Seagrams and explained the situation..Seagrams sent an entire
roll of the ribbon to us.
Being snowed in at the point site and eating C rations.
Spending first couple of weeks there in Quonset Hut and having to
get dusted for "crotch crickets" because someone
brought them back to barracks from Ankara..
===========================================================
From: Joe Shapiro <SHAPIROJ4@aol.com>
Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 19:50:31 EST
Subject: Sinop
Hey Bill.... I was a USAFSS 203 stationed at Sinop 1971-72.
I've got some great memories of the view from "the hill", and the people I shared it with. The NCO Club....crabbing in the Black Sea....and KBOK (spent my off-duty hours putting in time at the site radio station).
It was a tough year away from "the world" but we all stuck together and made it through.
Like to hear from the folks I shared it with.
Joe Shapiro <SHAPIROJ4@aol.com>
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Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 16:26:35
-0500 (EST)
Subject: Sinop 1970-71
From: Jim Dyer <JDyer84670@AOL.com>
I was stationed at Sinop from December 25 1970 to August 1971. I
arrived on Christmas night after being stranded in Ankara for 5
days due to the weather. What a Christmas!
I had been in Chitose, Japan for 5 months prior until they closed
that post.
I have many memories of Sinop, some even good. I learned to
develop pictures and drink. I long ago lost the ability to
develop pictures but the drinking stayed with me.
I would love to hear from anyone else who was there at the same
time I was. I remember the terrible winter winds and the life
lines stretched along walk ways to keep yourself from blowing
away.
I sure am glad I found this site. Keep it active.
================================================================
Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 20:47:49
-0500 (EST)
Subject: Turkey
From: Don Shafer dshafer@thestar.ca
Just wandered by your site. Never thought I'd see something about
Sinop. I was stationed there from 66-68. I hope this thing grows.
It would be nice to hear from some old pals.
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