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Fm>rom: "Bob Zerbe" <rzerbe4@home.com
Subject: Roll Call
Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2002 23:25:32 -0500
Was stationed at Det May 1961 through May 1962.
Worked Project Frisco in Artic tower.
Robert E Zerbe
Sp4
Ra 15633940
Separated as SP5, Sep 30 1963 after tour at Ft Bragg 314th ASA.
Was deployed to Sugarloaf Key to work Cuban Missile Crisis.
Home Dayton Ohio
Currently living in Leesburg FL
(352) 787-4462
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From: SMITTY98Z@aol.com
Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 19:30:15 EST
Subject: Update
Jim Smith, now listed 81-82. Also 88-89.
email: smitty98Z@aol.com
Thanks for the work.
Smitty
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Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2002 15:45:37 -1000
From: Jack Lee minuscule@earthlink.net
Subject: sinop duty
I was stationed at sinop, two times, but as a sailor; do sailors get added to the army roster?Some of my best friends use to be asa'rs.
Anyway, time frame: jan63 - apr63; and Jul64-sep64
aloha
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Bill replies: They sure do, we have lots of NAVDET people on the Roll Call pages.
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From: "stevewalcher" stevewalcher@home.com
To: apo133@yahoo.com
Subject: Sinop
Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 22:04:37 -08001969/70 Walcher, Steve - Sp5 -stevewalcher@home.com
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From: Rick Asper ricka@aviation-professionals.com
Subject: Visit to Sinop
Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 17:30:42 -0500This is a message to any fellow former TUSLOG Detachment 4 victims who may have been back to Sinop in the last few years. I was an Area Intell Officer (MOS 9666) stationed at the Hill during 1966 and 1967.
I'm taking a deposition in Ankara Turkey in late April of this year (2002). From there I'm seriously thinking of renting a car and driving up to Sinop. I'd like to go see what is left of the place after these 35 years. But I don't want to make the drive just to see the town; only if there is anything to see on the Hill. Obviously if I go I'll take my digital camera for posting on Bill's wonderful website.
Does anyone know if there is anything left? If it has been taken over by the Turkish Army (or other branch) I'm sure that my contacts at the US Embassy can get me cleared. Will someone email me their response? Thanks.
ricka@aviation-professionals.com
Rick
Richard A. Asper, J.D., Chairman
Aviation Professionals Group
Aviation Professionals Building
1041 Southeast 17th Street, Penthouse
Fort Lauderdale, Florida 33316, USA
Telephone (954) 763-4848
Facsimile (954) 763-4240
Cellular (954) 328-2149
Office Email: ricka@aviation-professionals.com
Residence Email: pilot143@aol.com
Bahamas Cellular (242) 357-8361
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From: "Jim Smith" N3UKZJIM@aol.com
Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 22:02:56 EST
Subject: Sinop 1971-1972
I was stationed at Sinop from April 1971 to April 1972.
I was a 98J20 with ASA and assigned to the Hippodrome.James T Smith, Jr.
SP5 ASA 98J20
n3ukzjim@aol.com
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From: GamBurgos@aol.com
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 14:26:59 EST
Subject: Re: Sinop Roll CallI'm glad to have found your page. It brought many pleasurable memories of my days there. Please add me to your list.
Burgos, Gamaliel SGT, USACC-sinop 1983-1984.
Thanks
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Hello Gamaliel,
I've added your information to the database and will be updating the Roll Call pages again on or about Feb. 10th.
By the way, what does "USACC" stand for??
Bill
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Gamaliel replied:USACC == US Army Communications Command, and while I was in Sinop, it was changed to USAISC = US Army Information Systems Command, and After the Gulf war once again to its original 1900's name of USASC = US Army Signal Command..
While in Sinop, I was the first supervisor of the Red Tech Control, I was also partly responsible for the installation and activation of the satcom station, and from Nov 83 through Apr 84, was the only 32D (Tech Controller) on the Hill..
Again Thanks,
Gamaliel Burgos
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From: "Jim Peron" Jpncef@aol.com
Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2002 16:58:50 EST
Subject: I Remember Sinop!!
To: apo133@yahoo.com
Hi:
Add my name to the roster of those who served on "The Hill" 1955-1956
James E. Peron
48 Long Lane
Kirkwood, PA 17536
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We were among first advance group to Sinop back in 1955 - 1956.
Our small group built the original facility. I left there in Dec. 1956 traveling in a blinding snow storm by 2 1/2 ton truck convoy to Ankara over the mountans. A trip I will never forget. It is a miracle we made it!! Never have been so cold in my life!!
Base looks almost civilized by 1958-59 hi hi!!
I have quite a few pictures of the base as it was originally built along with several pictures of our small staff. Only about 60 guys at that time. I got a chuckle out of the picture of Sinop International Airport with the water buffalo oxen cart!! Typical
transportation !! We landed L-19's on the beach. During the winter we had NO contact with the outside world except via radio.
I think I served with Phil Hutton at Sinop.
I also served at Rothweston FS 17 near Kassel Germany prior to my tour at Sinop, Tuslog 4.
Regards Jim Peron
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From: OldTiredTom1940@aol.com
Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2002 14:14:52 EST
Subject: (no subject)
To: apo133@yahoo.com
Tom Golden sp4 Sinop 63-64
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Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2002 16:23:12 +0100
To: apo133@yahoo.com
From: Wendall Dodge <wdodge@bbn.com>
Subject: I was at Sinop Too.
Hey,
Add my name to the rolls of Sinop - I was there from November 1975 to November 1976 and was one of the MP's.
Wendall A. Dodge
Senior Network Analyst
Verizon - Federal Network Systems LLC
DSN: (314) 434.5323
CIV: (49) (0)711.68639.5323
<http://www.verizon.com>
Blue skys have no clouds - except in Germany ;)
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From: "Kim Holloway" kihollow@bellsouth.net
Subject: Sinop, Turkey roll call
Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2002 17:13:28 -0500Sinop, 89-90 ,Tom Holloway, spc, tohollow@bellsouth.net
Please add my name, and information to the roll call. My wife, and I have pictures from our stay, we would be happy to share them, if anyone is interested.Sincerely, Tom Holloway
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From: "McCants, Ed" <McCants@dvua.com>
Subject: roll call registration
Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2001 11:28:10 -0500
Joseph E. (Ed) McCants PFC Det. 4 1969. Transferred to Det 4-4 Karamursel 1969324 Pineland Lane
Moncks Corner, SC 29461
McCants@dvua.com
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From: "Ross Welker" <ross-welker@cox-internet.com>
To: <apo133@yahoo.com>
Subject: Sinop
Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2001 23:42:00 -0600
I served as FS Sinop CSM from 1982 to 1984 under Col Stone and Col Hannah.
Ross...
Ross Welker
Command Sergeant Major, USA (Ret)
San Angelo, Texas
ross-welker@cox-internet.com
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Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2001 04:13:32 -0800 (PST)
From: "terry strickland" spotcatblack@yahoo.com
Subject: Tuslog Det4My Email address:spotcatblack@yahoo.com
Oh yes, let me interduce myself. Terry Strickland Spec4-Sinop 71-72 (I believe) 31J20-teletype mech.
At your site I see a few names,and many memories of a place FAR-FAR away. Hoping that it stays Far-Far away. If you would place my name on the roll call,and email add. so if anyone would like to see how I turned out they can.
Nice site and thank you.
Terry Strickland
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From: "mike house" <houseparty56@hotmail.com>
Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 19:29:23 -0500
Merry Christmas to all you Sinop veterans. Be proud and dont' let the current world situation get you down. We will prevail.allahsmarlidik(sp)
Mike House
(Sinop(74-75))
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From: "John Martin" <jmmj1@earthlink.net>
Subject: santa at sinop
Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001
Hi Bill-Looks like I'm going to have to go out to the barn and open some boxes. I had some Stars and Stripes newspapers and TUSLOG DET 169 Clippings but they are not in the house. Did find this along with ration cards/gas masks/weapons receipt cards etc: My scanner is not up on line:
SANTA AT SINOP
"Twas the night before Christmas and up on the Hill,
The holiday diners had eaten their fill.
The Yule logs were blazing, the trimmings were done;
And the fun at the DOOM Club had hardly begun.
When from out of the sky there arose such a boom,
I jumped from my bed and ran out of the room.
From the shore of the sea to the upper hilltop,
A reindeer-drawn sleigh was up buzzing main ops.
It was Santa himself, and from high up he called,
"Look out below friends, this darn thing just stalled."
He pulled out in time, brought it in with no hitch;
Then he stepped from his sleigh and fell in a ditch.
"Welcome to Sinop," to Santa I said.
He just shook his head and walked back to his sled.
"Your presents were mailed," I heard him to say;
"The APO said that you'd get them next may."
"But I did bring along a few things for your base.
And I have to admit, this is some kind of place.
You're PX has things even I can't afford;
Their present's a book from Montgomery Ward.
"Your paper gets a staff, someway;
And AFRTS gets a good DJ.
EM gets girls for Christmas cheer,
All Officers get four more years.
Your Sportsman get nothing for Christmas this year.
As I slid down their chimney, A dart hit my rear.
It just seems around here you can't turn your back;
A hunter got Rudolph's eleven point rack.
"I'm going," said Santa; and lifted his cup.
Where's your Class VI store? I've got to stock up."
The sun was now rising; St Nick waived goodbye.
He hitched up to Samsun and caught THY.
--John Hardy(Author)
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From: "John Martin" <jmmj1@earthlink.net>
Subject: Sinop
Date: Tue, 27 NOV 2001Bill-I'm a 1982/83 alumni of Sinop, but was not ASA. I ran the microwave site there, hell I can't even think of my army unit at this time. Have a lot of good and not so good memories of there. I also bought two of the knives you were talking about, except mine have deer antler handles (Being made of army truck springs rings a bell). The handles were made to fit my hand and they do to this day. The main memory over there was the lack of hot water every morning-especially in winter. Drank a lot of beer in the one horse sawdust bar in Sinop and a lot of wine in the cafe out in the country. I have a bunch of clippings of my time at Sinop. Will try and find them if you are interested. Would like to be added to your Sinop mailbag. Johnnie Martin
Email: jmmj1@earthlink.net
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Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 12:46:59 -0500
From: "Cynthia Cook" <cyco@loc.gov>
Subject: Tuslog Det. 4
I was stationed at Sinop from 81-82. My name was Cynthia Smith and later became Cynthia Cook. I worked at Main Ops.
Please place this message in The Mailbag. Anyone who sees this feel free to send an
Email.
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From: "Camille Fraering Jr." <scientifictools@msn.com>
Subject: Jim at Det 4
Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2001 22:15:14 -0700
We had a few dogs there in 57/58. One was a short dog named Jim. He was a white and brown dog but needed help mounting a fine brown dog that was in heat. He was helped by a couple of fried Ops.
Anyhow, SFC Jack Dunlap under orders from the Major shot them in a fear of rabies. Seemed to always be the excuse.
Of course people in Turkey have died of rabies but none in the Sinop area. Mostly from wolves.
C.M. Fraering Sp4 57/58
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From: "DEAN CANNON" <dc14213@flash.net>
Subject: I WAS THERE, LIST ME PLEASE
Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2001 14:57:30 -0500
Dean Cannon SP5 Aug 1961 to July 1962 worked in ops 98J/204. Does any one remember a Jimmy Carter who was in aviation and flew the L20 mail plane? 61/62
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This email message was forwarded to me by Abdullah Eren:
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"I received this letter from my daughter stationed in Turkey and am passing it on. Please do the same."
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"Dad,I started sending this to each person as I read their e-mail and have now decided to send it as a group e-mail, so please pass it on for me. Throughthe last few days I have received too many messages against Muslims and the Middle East right now I need to stand up and inform all of you of something.
Do any of you have any idea how many Americans live in the Middle East? At my base alone, we have 1500 and I am sure this is one of the smallest places in the Military. We have been threatened repeatedly by the same group we think is responsible for the actions against America, so do you know what happened within hours of the first strike? Muslim Turks surrounded our buildings. They close off the street and built barricades. They put themselves in between us and anyone who would attack us. They surrounded our school and ensured our children got home safe. Now they swarm about in plainclothes guarding all the places Americans frequently go I have even noticed them outside our homes watching carefully for any sign that someone may be out to harm us.
As the collapse of the buildings was shown on CNN these MUSLIM Turks cried for us and our country. They are preparing to go to war with us and assist us in enacting our revenge. I cannot walk across the street without someone apologizing and offering sympathy to me and my country. I want you all to know this is the same thing that is happening all over the world. In our base paper it told us of our bases in Japan, Germany, Spain and Italy being guarded more heavily, just as I know our bases in Saudi and United Arab Emirates, and Egypt are being guarded. These people are guarding us against the evil that did this.
No, these terrorists are not Muslim, but they are evil, using the face of religion just as it was used during the Spanish inquisition and countless other times throughout history. Please, while you are praying for the victims and their families, pray also for Arab Americans and American Muslims so they will not become victims as well.
SSgt Jamie Mallory"
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Date: Sun, 09 Sep 2001 02:27:57 +0200
From: "EROL RIFAT SAYIN" <erol.sayin@isbank.net.tr>
Reply-to: erol.sayin@isbank.net.tr
Subject: About your page
Dear Bill,
First of all I would like to say that I have found your page very impressive. Gratulations. I am sure there is a great effort behind it.
I have found your page as listed in an article about Sinop in the latest issue of a Turkish national monthly travel magazine (September 2001 issue of GEZI). If you are interested, I can send you a copy.
They have mentioned two more related pages, namely; http://erdemli.hypermart.net
which has english version as well and some pictures and information about Sinop.
http://www.kgm.gov.tr/harita/maps/ul7.htm is the official map page for Sinop and its environ. About Turkey you can get some info from my home page below.
I teach as Assoc.Prof. in the Industiral Engineering Dept. of Middle East Technical University, where we teach in english.
My office e-mail is: sayin@ie.metu.edu.trErol Sayin
Park Sitesi, Ful Ap. D:8
Karakusunlar/Balgat
06530 Ankara-TURKEY
Tel: +90-312-285 60 04
Fax: +90-312-210 11 04
http://www.ie.metu.edu.tr/~sayin
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Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2001 17:04:49 -0400
From: "Scott Graham" Scott.Graham@aretech-is.com
Subject: Sinop 90-91Please add me to the Roll Call; Scott Graham, SPC4, scott.graham@aretech-is.com
When I have more time I will locate some pictures and maybe even Scan my "I was in the Persian Gulf Theater, Third Row Balcony" Shirt.Thanks so much for bringing back the wonderful memories of Sinop.
Have you heard of anyone returning recently? I read somewhere on the site that you can drive up to the hill and get on. I hope that's true Also I wonder if you can get onto the Old Sinop Army Airfield?For the Tortured Turkish Section I offer:
SINOP = Solider's In Need Of P*ssy.
Sic Dela get = If I recall correctly get the F*** out of here.
Esek = Donkey (Anyone recall the stories about Sam the Donkey?)
Scott Graham
of the Former Esek Airlines
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From: "Swain Piver" <pivercorp@sc.rr.com> |
Subject: Tuslog
Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001
Was doing a little web surfing and came across your site! Brought back lots of memories of my tour back in 70-71. At the time, I was happy to be there rather than a hill in Viet Nam. I still remember the "camel chases" with the Otter mail plane. My good friend til this very day was one of the pilots, 1LT Steve Nemeth. Shortly after I left Sinop he was diagnosed with a brain tumor, successfully removed in Germany, given a medical discharge, and is now nearing retirement as a civilian employee at Ft. Lee, VA.
It also brought back the sadness and loss all of us felt when 1Lt Tullis, and Tumpane manager Tom Miller, capsized and drowned just off the point during one of those quick forming squalls. Probably the lowest point in my short military career. I still remember their faces and personalities, even now.
I have quickly viewed the roll for 70-71 and saw some names that I remember!
What a joy to recall old memories. Of course, I'm sure that the faces and bodies have changed. :-)
Thanks for the web site and I will visit back quite often.
Aaron Swain Piver
Conway, SC
spiver@sc.rr.com
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From: Mark Russell Jorgensen <jorge002@tc.umn.edu>
Subject: Sinop
Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2001 23:30:01 -0500
I was surfing the web and discovered your effort. It is a good start but still has a long way to go. Most of the people I knew there in 71-72 are not yet on your list. I am in regular contact with a buddy from Sinop. As my friend was an 05 who worked in OPS and I was a 98J who worked in the Hippodrome and OPS I think we can probably come up with another couple dozen names for you at some point.
We were both recruited by SFC Ores in Milwaukee in late 69-early 70 and didn't know each other at the time. We met in Charlie Company at Fort Devens (Summer 1970) when Charlie was the last of the companies in the old wooden barracks. During the winter (70-71) Charlie's members were dispersed to various companies on the Hill and my friend and I were sent to separate companies. Later we were sent to separate duty stations, but late in 71 we were re-united at Sinop, and even SFC Ores joined us there in 72.
Regards,
Jorgensen, Mark 98J Sp5 71-72 jorge002@tc.umn.edu
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From: "Roger Klein" <rwklein@msn.com>
Subject:
Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2001
I was surfing on the net today and out of curiosity typed in "USAFS Sinop." I found your site, and one other, that featured names of people who had been stationed there at one time or another. Being a former TUSLOG Det 4 member myself, I would like to add my name to your list.
I was at the Hill from 6/82 to 6/83, and I worked at Main Ops, Electronic Maintenance Division. My NCOIC was SFC Jimmie B. Williams, one of the best enlisted leaders that I had the pleasure to work for during my service in the Army and Navy. Our OIC was a CW2 named Bill McDonald. (He was from St. Petersburg, Florida, and Sergeant Williams was from Kansas.)
All the apprehension I felt prior to arriving in Turkey proved to be unnecessary. It didn't take me long to get into the routine of the Hill, explore the country, enjoy the food and pick up some of the language. I still remember quite a few phrases and use them whenever I visit a Turkish restaurant in Arlington, Virginia, which is about 30 miles north of where I now live. (Of all the places where I was stationed, I miss the food from Turkey more than any place else.)
In addition to seeing a beautiful and fascinating country, my time at Sinop was rewarding because I was promoted to SP5 there and also worked for and with a very good bunch of guys. Most of them were 33S's and the others 76Y's. I was a 71L.
If possible, would you have any information on the following individuals:
SP4 Gerry Montgomery (He wasthere from 7/82 to 7/83 and went back for another tour in either in late 1988 or mid 1989. He was my best friend there.)
SFC Jimmie Williams (8/82 to 8/83)
CW2 Bill McDonald (7/82 to 3/83)
Senior Chief Randolfo Aragon, USN (5/82 to 5/83 approximately)
SSG Cliff Masters (8/81 to 8/82)
SP5 Rod Swindle (8/82 to 8/83)
It would be good to get back in touch with some of them. Also, how do I go about adding to the stories on your site? We had some interesting moments there and I recall being confined to base a couple of times.
So long for now and let me hear from you soon. Sincerely, Roger Klein, YN1(SW), USN(Ret)
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From: "cncbridges" cncbridges@home.com
Subject: Diogenes Station (Tuslog Det 4)
Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 16:04:52 -0700Bill, I don't know if we knew each other, as my memory for names isn't what it used to be, but we were at Det 4 at the exact same time. We might recognize each other if we met, but then it has been 41 years! See how time passes when one is having fun?
I was at Fort Devens from July to August 1959...then on to Camp Gordon, Ga for school. I went to Frankfurt, Germany (21st Repo Depot) in November '59 to await assignment. I then proceeded to Sinop, arriving the day before Thanksgiving. Like all other new arrivals, I spent the next couple of weeks walking guard duty, waiting to work my way through the list as new arrivals replaced us. Remember? It may have been your arrival that "freed" me from the guard roster!
Do you remember standing in the mud, outside the mail room, on Christmas Eve 1959? As you may recall, they had a hell of a time getting our Christmas mail to us on time, but some daring L19 Army pilot managed to land in the snowy, muddy cow pasture we called a landing strip!
I bunked in the closest barrack to the old Byzentine ruins that you picture in your website. Some names you may remember are: Mr Miller......CWO4....my CO Clayburn Burnie Drake (Clay)....roommate and close friend Dave Dagney.......another roomy and friend Floyd Holloway....another roomy... John Kirk.......friend (different barracks) Charlie Sweat.....we called him "no sweat Charlie"
Do you remember Gimp? The dog that drank beer and then howled all night (while we patted his throat to make him warble)? And Gimps' lady friend, Kismet? I have many photographs....some that are exactly like what you displayed in your website.
I left there in November 1960 and ended up at Fort Bragg, NC. That place was way to chicken-shit for me, having just left our version of "Mash". I volunteered to waive my time in the US and asked for TDY to anywhere outside the US. My wish was granted in March 1961 when I received orders to go to Saigon, SVN for 90 days TDY. That 90 days got extended to 10 months!.....I returned to the US the day before Christmas in 1961. I laid low at Bragg until May 1962. I was supposed to get out in February, but got some of that JFK time. My friend, from Det 4, Dave Dagney, had already gotten out, but was recalled for JFK time, and sat at Fort Devens for almost a year....doing absolutely nothing!!! I must admit that I was shocked that I found any information on Tuslog Det 4 in the internet! I don't know what prompted me to enter it, under "search", but now I'm glad I did! Small world, isn't it?
Carl Bridges
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From: "Jon Storey" <jstorey@tri-lakes.net>
Subject: sinop
Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 23:17:23 -0500
I was bored and surfing and was almost excited to find your website. I
think it's great that someone took the time to create a site just for sinop.
I was stationed there from Mar 88 to Apr 89, worked at Hippy. For your
database, my name is Storey, Jonathan, SP4.
I was reading about the dogs that were on the hill. It said Bob Dog was there 87-88. Bob Dog was there until 1989 when then SSG Robert Kitchen supposedly was taking him back to the states with him when he PCS'd.
I had a great time on the hill. I haven't been in touch with anyone since I left, but I did notice some familiar names in your database. I have some information about other people that were there when I was, but not sure about how they would feel about their privacy.
I hope your site continues to grow and thanks for a stroll down memory lane.
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From: "Lynn Fair" <fair@bigpond.com>
Subject: TUSLOG DET 4
Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 17:15:17 +1000
G'day
I discovered your site while looking through some ASA links. Obviously you have put a lot of time and effort into this, and let me congratulate you on the results. I was stationed at Det 4 for the entire year of 1965, arriving in early Jan and departing New Year's Eve. Please put me on your list of other immortals who survived the 11 months and ten days with other great guys having great times. Just a couple of bits of trivia. Does anyone remember who painted FTA on the watertower? or which NCO got the bright idea to take the doors of the toilets because of all the FTA, CON 4 sucks and similar grafitti that was being written on them.
Does anyone remember how the National Anthem, which was played before every movie at the theatre, used to flicker and sound terrible? Well I must confess, that I worked the camera, and while loading the film used to cut a couple of frames out of the National Anthem. This had been going on long before I arrived, I only kept the tradition alive. I often wondered what happened when there were no more frames to cut out.
Wish I had kept in touch with ASA friends, but living in Australia for past 25 years has made catching up difficult. Thanks for creating the opportunity to reestablish contact.
Should anyone wish to contact me, my e-mail address is fairls@aol.com
Regards,
Lynn Fair
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From: "Wayne Smith < wayne.smith@rucker.army.mil>
Subject: I remember the Hill's
Date: Fri, 25 May 2001I was looking for unit crest for det 4 or the 13th field station to add to my collection, when I found your page.
I was at det 4 in 1958, lived in a Jamesway hut and after my year there I went to the 13th field station until 1961.
I stayed a pfc for ever in the old army, retired in 1978 from active duty and went back to work for the company (civil service) working for Fort Rucker now.
The only guy I have met since leaving Det 4 is a guy named James Hutto. He was a SP2 (E-5) on the hill in 1957.Wayne Smith email wayne.smith@rucker.army.mil
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From: "Dale Bedford" <reillyec@onramp.net>
Organization: Reilly/Echols Printing, Inc.
Subject: Remembrances of Sinop
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Brothers from Sinop,
I had a few minutes today to get back up on the I-net and look at the names on the roster of Sinop. The following names I remember .
I'll list them as I found them: Sergeant Peters (he was my Trick Chief), Roger Staffin, Frank Svoboda, Tony Vitale, Bill Bishop, Judd Bowers, Eddie
Coats, Ron Cole, Harlan Crist, Tom Dempsey, a fellow named Dent, Jerry Dill, Doug Elam, Don Elkins, Vic Fauser, Don Gentry, Cennis Geissler, Larry Garrett, Ron Hasse, Ed Harrison (he is the artist that drew the post cards), John Heath, Art Jennings, Edwin Lamb, Kerry Lynch (he was the manager of the enlisted men's club), Bob Malone, Jack McKenna, Jerry McNamara, Burt Slesinger, Frank Soukup, Walter Stanton, Al Tucker, and another that was on my trick and was a great pitcher by the name of Robert Johnson. Bill Denton was on my trick but worked the DF at the point.
The PVR50 operator I've been asking about was Paul Krause.
Looking at the names on the the roster appears to have a couple of errors.
Donald Ray Sadler (not Ron), and Paul Sellers (not Don). The fellow on my trick that worked just in front of me had a last name of Westover...and I think his first name was Paul....but not sure. Anyway, Sadler, Sellers, Westover and myself ended up at Two Rock Ranch in Company D of the 317 ASA Battalion. We were to become part of the 18th Airborne Corp just after arrival and spent many happy days at the fabulous Army posts known as Camp Robert, Camp San Luis Obispo, Fort Lewis, Yakama Firing Range, Fort Irwin, Edwards AFB, Fort Ord, Presidio of SF, Fort Baker, Fort Cronkite, Fort Berry, Fairfield AFB, Travis AFB, Sacramento Signal, and many others. In the last 17 months at Two Rock we were in Army convoys traveling the complete western U.S. to the tune of about 30,000 miles or so.
In fact, one of the guys from Sinop and Two Rock, George Forbis, played basketball for Kentucky before coming into the Army and after getting out of the Army he was a professional singer (Gospel music, at one time with the Florida Boys).
During the time I was at Sinop...we were not allowed to go downtown at all. We did make one trip to Samsun for a basketball tournament....that was the only time I was off the post during that year.
We did get off to go swimming during the summer but it was at a beach on the East side of Sinop and about two-three miles south of Sinop....then we took a small dirt road to the East.
If anyone would like to get ahold of Don Sadler or Paul Sellers they can try the telephone books. Sadler lives on Bonita Road in the community of Bonita, LA. Sellers, at the last I heard, has retired from the California Highway Patrol at many years at Crescent City, CA. Still in the area.
.............
I just called my ex-wife of many years and she says she still had two boxes of colored slides on mine from Sinop and will give them to me if I come to Oklahoma and ask her nicely...along with a dinner, I'm sure. Guess I'll go up there and get them. We have been ex since January of 1964.
Drop me a line when you have time.
Dale Belford
8621 Strathmore Drive
Dallas, Texas 75238
(214) 341-7408
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From: "Jerry Eby" <ebenezer@urx.com>
Subject: Thanks for your web site.
Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 19:06:06 -0700
Like to thank you Bill for your web site. It's been 36 years since I left the hill. Through your site I have contacted a couple of my old buds. Seeing John Owens (Moorehead) this weekend. First time since the hill. I see by your site Jim Faust, Richard Scott, Chris Strauss and a number of other elbow benders are listed. Wish some of them had left an cc-mail address so I could contact them, especially Faust. He got me into more trouble than the rest. Was on the hill Jan. 65 to Dec.65 after 13 months in Korea on another hill called B-North 321st as a 993 and a 989. Spent time with Fisher in P-van, but mostly ops B, room 1, 2 and 3. Thanks again. Any classmates of F-11-3 (Ft. Devens), give me a yell.Jerry Eby <ebenezer@urx.com>
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From: "Vince Hill" <vhill@stny.rr.com>
Subject: Sinop/Det 4
Date: Sun, 13 May 2001 20:22:54 -0700
What a great site you've got! I came across it while "surfing" and got a flood of memories. I was a very young MP at Sinop from Feb 82 to Feb 83. Your site brought back a lot of memories. I was there for the Russian Aircraft hijacking among other things. In reading your mailbag, I saw an e-mail from "Boop" - the medic! Amazing the things that you remember. Please add me to your roll call page. I'll be checking in now and again. Besides Boop I served with Mike Bolles, Doug Wood, Tom Bear, "tex" (can't remember the full name}, "Lenny" Lenhart and a host of others. Anyone reading this feel free to e-mail.
Vince Hill
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Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 00:39:14 -0400
From: Jesse B <Jesbaker@InfoAve.Net>
Talk about a time in my past life I would not repeat...ha.
I am Jesse Baker, a 98C E5 at that time and was in Sinop from Feb of 66 till late Jan of 67. Left on the coke boat during a snowstorm. And that about describes my tour there. I remember vaguely several things. The smell of the cook's belly as he was pulled forward on the grill for hoarding the steaks by I believe Dick Funkehouser. I remember getting in a fight with the First Sergeant and also the town wrestler. Think I won both of them, but not sure. I remember my sailboat, the blue goose. There was a strike by the Turks for PX privilege and they cut off our water supply and access to the hill. Then we cut off their water supply.
The only girl on post was the mayor's daughter who worked in the PX and had real hairy legs. There was a cigarette stealing donkey which lived on the second floor of one of the barracks. I remember contacting National Geographic to see if they were looking for a place to give the world an enema and telling them I had found it. I think we worked 12 and 12 for the first month or so. I think Vietnam was a piece of cake after Sinop. Not really. But it made a man out of me I guess. retired from the army and went on to retire as a chief of police. I remember so many good people from that tour. Bob Kehr was also one of them. It was a real character building experience and a time of my life I will never forget. Pictures later.
Jesse Baker <Jesbaker@infoave.net>
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From: "Bert Martin" <bertcora@aol.com >
Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2001
Subject: Glad to be here
I was on the Hill from 67-68, came in as a Sp5, left as SSG, in charge of comm center and the great courier trips to Istanbul. Lots of thoughts coming back now as to terrible winters, counting the days to go home, pinochle games, new CO's coming and going, "sanitizing the comm center", BFO grease assisgnments, sub lookout on the roof, riding the boat from Istanbul to Sinop, the covered bazaar in Istanbul, the dusty road trips down the Hill and on the road, hashish on growing wild, paddle ball in the gym, midnight in the mess hall, and leaving at last.
Bert Martin
bertcora@aol.com
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From: CCars3@gateway.net
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001
CC: HIPOCKETS40@email.msn.com
Thanks for the tip on checking out the roll call -
Remember the beach incident I wrote about (the three guys getting into a fight with the Turks). I was trying to recall the name of the guy that broke his hand hitting Turks. As soon as I got on the roll call, the first name I came across from my time period was Harry Abraham - BINGO! That's the one.
Allow me to finish the story - Abraham's right hand was broke - Dr Lewis used tongue depressors as splints. The next morning, we had to go the the police station in Sinop. While the all the honchos were inside discussing the fight, we were outside on the porch - American G.I.'s on one side & the Turks on the other.
Anyway, I was standing next to Abraham, he reached inside his top pocket with his left hand and pulled out a cigarette. One of the Turks came over (with a big smile on is face), tried to be friendly, asked for a cigarette. Abraham smiled, and then said, "You want a cigarette?" The Turk nodded - Abraham crumbled the cigarette in his left hand, threw it in the Turk's face - closed his right hand (remember, there were 4 tongue depressors taped on his hand) - punched the Turk in the mouth.
The Turk went over the railing - the Turkish police came running out & arrested the Turk. This a true story - I can still hear those tongue depressors cracking when he closed his hand. If you hear from him, asked him about it.
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From: CCars3@gateway.net
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001
Subject: Tuslog Det 4 / Aug 59 to Sep 60
My name is Vince Caruso - was in the agency from 57 to 60 - first tour was with the 321st Co B in Korea - returned stateside in Apr 59 - stateside too GI - extended to to go to Sinop - arrvd Aug 59 / left Sep 60.
To be honest (it has been 40 plus years), there are a lot of people I do not remember.
When I got there, I was suppose to work with WO Jackson in Supply - But winded up in the dispensary (because I cud type). Worked with Dr Lewis / SFC Otis "Wayne" King. I remember Eddie Coats (he ran the radio station) - Wayne Eislofer - Rhodan - Gieger - Kingsbury (ran the Library) - Nick Caruso (definetely remember him - both with the same last name - both born on 24 Aug 40 - both joined the Army on 3 Sep, me in 57 & him in 58 - he was from Chicago & me from New Orleans). there are a lot of others, but the names escape me right now (I know thery'll jump out at me about 2 or 3 in the morning).
I know I have some pictures of Det 4, but will have to look for them. I do remember someone drawing humorous postcards of life on the hill (doubt if I can find them tho!)
Anyway, When I find the pictures, I'll E-Mail you
Have you heard from anyone else from our time period? If so, let me know.
My E-Mail address is: cars3@gateway.net
Thx,
Vince Caruso
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Date: Thu, 15 Mar 01 21:00PM EST
From: "rkm" <shuksan58@hotmail.com>
To: <roll-call@usa.net>
Subject: new listing
Here is another name to add to the list. I served on the hill from August 1964 until September of 1965. I have many (mostly) fond memories, and will be happy to share with anyone interested.
Richard (Dick) K. Martindale
Sp/5 Monterey Mary
shuksan58@hotmail.com
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Date: Sat, 10 Mar 01 22:55PM EST
From: Taggie55@aol.com
Subject: Add my name to the list
Years on the hill 56-57, F. W. (Bill) Stuckert Jr, Lt, TA Officer
Hometown Ft. Worth, Tx, Recd commission from Texas A&M 1955
Have been trying for years to get in touch with some of the men I served with.
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Date: Tue, 06 Mar 01 18:20PM EST
From: "Lovett, Eric" <Eric.Lovett@Chinle.IHS.gov>
Subject: RE: [New Listing]
Really enjoying the site -- brings back many old and nearly forgotten memories.
Speaking of the Dogs of the Hill, Gypsy out at Hippy was beloved by my MPs because she didn't like Turks and would sound the alarm whenever someone came creeping around in the dark. Someone asked about "Bayanami"; those were imported items (TVs, steros, electric appliances, etc)upon which the Turks normally collected import duties but let us off the hook so long as the items left the country with us. We had to maintain a paperwork "chain of custody" whenever things were bought or sold. People who couldn't account for their Bayanami items were subject to paying the import duties and it was always a big deal. Myself and several MPs did outgoing customs inspections. We didn't inspect arriving shipments so the Installation Team (eternally TDY from Germany) used to have enormous quantities of excellent dark beer smuggled in beneath false floors in Conex containers.
Best, Eric
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From: "Fred Ripley" <feripley@hotmail.com>
Subject: New addition to roll call
Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001
I would like to add my name to the roll call. I arrived on the hill around the 3rd of August 1961 and departed on the 24th of July 1962. as you know this was the transition period from the old ops building and barracks to the new, and from the mud roads to cement. My name is Fred E Ripley and I was a sp-4 at the time. On return to the states I was discharged and later reinlisted in the US Coast Guard retiring in 1988 as a cwo4.
I can also remember a few of the other people on the hill at the same time that are not on the list, Alan Donstan who I believe is deceased, Ed Ahearn who ran the convoy, Bill Quarterman who is deceased, Ray Kennedy, Thomas Elliot, Hayes who ran the convoy before Ahearn.
II'ill be looking for my name on the next new addition to the roll call. In the meantime take care.
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From: "Pat Callahan (Mizelle) Taylor" <TenZingMoMo@aol.com>
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 07:30:23 EST
Subject: Dog page
.... And when I get this scanner hooked up again and working, I will send some pics and some stories - ohhh like the time we decided to make a kite out of a parachute that we found. Gee, combine those winds with a parachute, tied to a water pipe... I think you can visualize what happened.
Our wedding on the Hill. How we used to harass the OSI guy by heat sealing little packets of powdered agar, numbering them, and then planting them around the Hill - we knew he was bored so we wanted to give him something to do; the Halloween party when we decided at the last minute that we would too have one and made costumes for about 40 people in under 8 hours; almost delivering a baby in the dispensary - she decided at the last minute that she didn't like this labor stuff and went downtown requesting a c-section; the night we sent our first kite (made out of metal - go figure) flying into Turkish airspace and a bunch of Turkish planes scrambled.... oh yeah, we had a good time, I think the Col was almost relieved to see us go. So yes, I will put some pics and stories together...
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Date: Sat, 24 Feb 01
From: Jim Scarborough <jimscar@bellatlantic.net>
To: roll-call@usa.net
Subject: add to roll, pls
Hi, I am James Scarborough, SSG USASA, 98J30, and I served at Hippy in Sinop for 2 tours, 73-74 & 75-76. Vern Cook was NCOIC Ops and then First Shirt Co. A for my second tour. My second tour was during the shutdown, and I worked first in the Comm Center, and then the Finance Office, in addition to performing "odd jobs" at the Main Ops and Hippy sites. We formed an Emergency Reaction platoon, led by a 33S MSG former green beanie. We trained with M-14 rifles, and had CB for commo, not being allowed much else by the Turks. I was also stationed at Ft. Meade
and LEC, Norfolk, VA. I was in from 72-79.
talk to you later,
Scars
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Date: Tue, 06 Feb 01
From: "Jim" <jimc@acmeclick.com>
Subject: RE: [Sinop - Jim Calder]
I was at Det 4 from October 1970 to October 1971. I was the Headquarters and Service Company Commander for most of the tour and spent about 2 of 3 months as S-3. I attained the rank of Captain in May 1971.
Somewhere I have seen some reference to the loss of Bruce and Tom (can't remember their last names) in the sail boat incident. I knew them both well at the time and remember some of the details if anyone wants to know.
Another story is of the post XO, a LTC. Fleming who was reported secreted out of the place in a mailbag after he insulted the mayor of Sinop. I don't know about the mailbag but the rest is true.
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Date: Tue, 06 Feb 01 17:21PM EST
From: "Bob Kehr" <bkehr@nc.rr.com>
Subject: Sinop, Turkey
Hi! My name is Robert L. Kehr (Bob) and I was assigned to TUSLOG Det 4, Sinop on 2 occasions. First assignment was in June 1957 to May 1958. Second assignment was June 1966 to May 1967. My MOS was Traffic Analyst (980,982, 98C,98Z).
I retired from the Army in 1976. I currently live in Fayetteville, North Carolina and am working as a Realtor. My e-mail address is bkehr@nc.rr.com. I enjoy looking at the pictures of Sinop that I find on various sites-- it brings back a lot of memories, both good and bad. Besides working in Operations, I also managed the Bowling Lanes in my off time during my second assignment there.Please add my information to your rolls and also I can remember an 056/05D in 1957 by the name of Garry Gerrard. Also, in 1966, a 98C by the name of Robert "Randy" Mix. Keep up the good work of tracking down former ASA types.
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Date: Sun, 04 Feb 01
From: "William Cushing" <mbcushing@peoplepc.com>
Subject: Sinop Turkey
My name is William (Bill) Cushing. I was stationed at Sinop from May '73 to Sept. '74. I was a mission management clerk at OPS. My email address is mbcushing@peoplepc.com. My wife and 9 month old son accompanied me on this tour. We lived in the 18 houses area and have many fond memories of American as well as Turkish friends. It was fun to relive our time in Sinop and on "The Hill" through the many pictures on the web.
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From: "tomseaman" <tomseaman@email.msn.com>
Subject: Tom Seaman Mid 65 to Mid 66
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 12:36:30 -0600
Organization: Microsoft Corporation
Like your site. I went from Pfc to Sp5 from mid 65 to mid 66 (went to Sinop from Two Rock Ranch and returned to Two Rock from Sinop for the last of my four year
hitch [one of the first of the four year guys.
I just finished the first draft of a novel, the first half set in Sinop and the second half set in the Two Rock/San Francisco Bay Area. After I complete the major re-write, I will try to get it published.
Some of the names I remember from my Sinop tour are: Al Rollins, Jim Konopka, Elliot Bristol, Angelo Teti, Wayne Beavers.
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Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001
Subject: TUSLOG DET 4
From: "Rick Dessecker" <dessecker@columbus.rr.com>
Allow me to introduce myself, my name is Rick Dessecker and I was on The Hill in '72 as a 98J20 EW Op (yeah, yeah, I know, I tweeked knobs.) I was happy to find both the ASA and Sinop web sites which are very well done.
Glancing at the photos and reading Dave Shively's "Life on the Hill" made me hungry for dona kabob and ekmek (with a little goat's milk cheese.)
I am interested in finding others who were there during '72 mainly to reminisce and wanted to start with Dave (I think I met him once), but got bounce back on his email. Nor does the Stanford Directory have any listing of him. Is it possible for you to put me in touch with him. Your help would be greatly appreciated.
Rick
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Bill writes: Dave seems to have dropped out of sight, can anyone out there help us contact Dave Shively?
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Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001
From: Steve Howard howpix@usa.net
Subject: A Couple of PhrasesI just found this site when I was searching for my old roommate, Rich Uttke. I was in Sinop in '66. One of my favorite TV shows at the time was "Get Smart". On a whim I asked the kitchen assistant, Moose, to translate two phrases from the show that I said in English all the time. He conspired with the head waiter and they came up with phrases I committed to memory. Here they are with their Turkish translations. BTW, I know nothing about what words were involved so my "translation" is one long phonetic word.
"Sorry about that, Chief." - "Ah-noo-nee'-chee-nuh-zoor-delairum, chef"
"Would you believe?" - "In-ah-near'-mah-soom?"
I too have the little Langenscheidt's Universal Dictionary. The cover was dark green. Mine is vinyl. As I recall, I bought mine at the PX in Ankara. It was published by Barnes and Noble and (according to the cover) cost 95 cents, or about 9 packs of cigarettes on the Hill. I have tried to "translate" the phrases using it but there is too much I don't know about Turkish syntax.
I have no idea why I still remember these phrases. I guess my answer to the question, "So, do you speak any Turkish?" comes up often enough to remember them. I can say that after leaving them with you I finally feel like there was a reason to remember them.
Steve Howard
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From: "Jim Schwartz" <crappieking1@home.com>
Subject: Good Memories
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001
I was cruising around the net this evening and, on a whim, entered "Sinop" for a search. I can't tell you how surprised I was to find this web site and two others about the "Hill". Shocked would've been a mild description.
I did three separate tours up there with the U.S. Navy: 1964-1965, 1979-1980 (the reopening) and again from 1983-1984. I met my now ex-wife up there on the second tour among other memorable events!! All of my memories from the Hill are marvelous. I still have an entire drawer full of slides and old photos. I just recently went through a lot of them and, unfortunately, while I remember the faces, a lot of the names are gone.
I always tell anyone who will listen that Turkey is one of the best kept secrets in the world - and Sinop is one of the jewels. This opinion comes mainly from my three tours in Sinop, even though I was stationed at Karamursel and lived in Yalova and Istanbul.
I retired from the Navy in 1986 after 23 years and have chosen a profession light years removed from my old "spook" days. Despite my new life, Sinop and my time there remains firmly implanted in my bank of good memories. Occasionally, I will relate a small (very small) story about my time on the Black Sea coast to the young professionals on my staff.....they look at me for the most part like I am from another planet. If they only knew.
Again, thanks so very much for a pleasant evening of recalling old friends and good times.
I can be reached at this e-mail address or at:
Jim Schwartz
12231G Little Patuxent Parkway
Columbia, MD
(410) 964-2677
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From: "Bob Readie" <u2oddball@home.com >
Subject: Sinop 81 - 82
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 20:27:23 -0500My name is Bob Readie, nickname was "Boop", and I was a Medic / Labtec stationed at Sinop for 18 months in 81 & 82. What a pleasant surprise to find the pages, e-mail, and photos of others who were stationed there. Please add me to your roll call.
Some of the people I was stationed with were, Mike Bolles, Russell Marks, Samantha Kinsey, Mike Fitzpatrick, Ann O' Tolle, Brian Johnson, Ruth Osmun, Cheryl Cook, Dr. Terry Wogan, Dr. Dave Leaper, Dr. James Pardoe, Willie Sallis, Warrant Officers Jim Kidder and Pete Quick. I wish I could remember others.
I had a great time on the Hill. Played with the softball team in Incirlik. Was a traitor and played with the Navy during the Army / Navy Game. Did allot of climbing and rappelling during my time there. I have a ton of photo's from my time there and would like to post them, I just have to dig them out. Please feel free to post my e-mail address if anyone would like to get in touch with me. Thanks.
Bob Readie
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From: "L S" slew@home.com
Subject: Lew Shipp 69-70
Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001Please add me to the roll call on your Det 4 site. What wonderful memories! I have some photos that I would like to post on a web site. If I can get my 35mm slides printed, I'll have lots more.
I arrived in August 69 aboard the launch that the Army leased to bring yenis up from Istanbul. We called it the "Jay Kemal," but I'm not sure of the spelling of its name in English. We were a whole class of 98J's who had just finished the telemetry class at Ft Meade that summer. We arrived during a water shortage.
Some of the folks with whom I worked at Hippodrome:
Bill "Stewie" Stewart. I'm still in contact with him. He's a river boat pilot out of New Brighton PA, driving barges down the Ohio and Mississippi Rivers. Rich Burkey. Rich went on to Asmara after Sinop. Jim McGhan Jim's father was an Air Force General John DelGrosso "Pappy" Berres from Ohio Mike Wagner. I later knew Mike at Fort Meade, but haven't seen him in years. Carl Sagro "Bo" Bullock, from Bosier City LAI was at Bad Aibling as a civilian from 86-90. The chaplain there was John Duval, who had been chaplain at Det 4.
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